Fast Hondas going to Rally series

[NitroShark]

and you better have something more (way more) than a Stock 1500cc SC RXP to keep up. thats what i'm talkin bout! ;)


2007 Florida PWC Rally St. Petersburg, FL April 20-22
St. Petersburg is one of Florida’s premier watercraft riding areas with crystal clear waters of Egmont Key, vast riding areas of Tampa Bay, and a variety of conditions in between with the beautiful Holiday Inn Sunspree – Marina Cove (http://www.holiday-inn.com/marinacove-ss) being the center of all the action. We will mix in a handful of watercraft related activities on-water and off at this spectator and family friendly venue.

shawn

[V6speed04]

I will be there and ready to go!

[mtrager]

Nitro,

Are you coming ? That would be cool.

Saw a fast Honda at the last one.

[NitroShark]

no i wish i could, due to a family death (my father) last month my obligations are at home for awhile.

thanks for asking.

shawn

[1wingedrocket]

Yea, wish I could be there, damm I'm not fast enough yet......

[mtrager]

Yea, wish I could be there, damm I'm not fast enough yet......

Nitro, Sorry for your loss.

I love the looks of those hondas.

Wingedrocket,

If your close enough come. It is gonna be a great time.

[NitroShark]

mtrager they'll be at least 2 there with my kits, check um out.

have fun be safe.

shawn

[danketchpel]

It sounds like an awesome event. I wish we had more Rally/Jamboree/Mudbug type events here on the west coast. We've got strict Racing and fun Club events but not too much in between.

[Hydrotoys]

It sounds like an awesome event. I wish we had more Rally/Jamboree/Mudbug type events here on the west coast. We've got strict Racing and fun Club events but not too much in between.

Come on out to Yuma with us sometime. It's informal and a great time. Lots of different types of skis, and folks. We ride, race, camp, eat and generally just have fun.

[ph2ocraft]

It sounds like an awesome event. I wish we had more Rally/Jamboree/Mudbug type events here on the west coast. We've got strict Racing and fun Club events but not too much in between.

You think it's bad where you are?? Try here up North, blah..............

[RX951]

and you better have something more (way more) than a Stock 1500cc SC RXP to keep up. thats what i'm talkin bout! ;)




:shock: :shock:

[NitroShark]

Matt said he took out some RXPs today.

big problem right now though, looks like his CDI MSD went out..:evil: :evil: :evil: no spark. since its an hour old, most of the time they last or go out right away.. i got a new one here but that wont help for the Drags tomorrow, hes looking to find one in Fl now..

:smt100

[1wingedrocket]

thats great news, he got the turbo?

[Hondastage1]

Honda R12X won the REVA Sea doo closed cource shoot out!! Only Honda in the competition. What a show was great to be here and watch the guys run. Every body was really nice to everyone. The wind was not nice so far and made laying down any real passes. Hoping for a better day tomorrow. Drag competition rescheduled for am.

Randy

[mtrager]

mtrager they'll be at least 2 there with my kits, check um out.

have fun be safe.

shawn

Came up on one of your turbos today. Broke down in 5 foot waves.

I went and found his friends so he could get back.

There were some real fast Yamahas there today.

[HondaTurboGuy]

Any Photos of this event or video's posted on YouTube for us guys that couldn't make it?

[Hondastage1]

Came up on one of your turbos today. Broke down in 5 foot waves.

I went and found his friends so he could get back.

There were some real fast Yamahas there today.


Thanks for the help!!

It's tough when electronics or a loose wire shuts you down. A 13 hour trip down the tube. It will be a easy fix but not till we get back. There will be a different time, hopefully the weather will cooperate. Again thanks for being helpful.

Randy

[ph2ocraft]

The good news it's something simple......

[psycho rxp]

Any Photos of this event or video's posted on YouTube for us guys that couldn't make it?


I'll post some pics tomorrow when I get em DL'ed from my cam.....got some video's of the bouoys, but none of the drags:roll: , as I was too busy whoopin up on all the skis that ran...including a new 250 ultra in 2ft+chop.:D Mark what happened to you guys today?? Great seein u guys again!!

[mtrager]

I'll post some pics tomorrow when I get em DL'ed from my cam.....got some video's of the bouoys, but none of the drags:roll: , as I was too busy whoopin up on all the skis that ran...including a new 250 ultra in 2ft+chop.:D Mark what happened to you guys today?? Great seein u guys again!!

Jason,

It was great riding with you as always. We were rocking.

I hope you got a video of Seadoolover riding my ski in the hot lap challenge.

Elliott, you did awesome.

[mtrager]

Thanks for the help!!

It's tough when electronics or a loose wire shuts you down. A 13 hour trip down the tube. It will be a easy fix but not till we get back. There will be a different time, hopefully the weather will cooperate. Again thanks for being helpful.

Randy

Randy,

I am glad it was not a serious problem. Also hope you understand me wanting to go get your friend with the 3 seater to tow you in. That was
Jims 1300 and Nater who stayed with you. That was some rough water you were broke down in.

See at Mud Bug.

[danketchpel]

Come on out to Yuma with us sometime. It's informal and a great time. Lots of different types of skis, and folks. We ride, race, camp, eat and generally just have fun.

I'd like to. We've never ridden Senator's Wash. I've been following "Spitfire's" development, awesome project. I can't wait to see what it eventually tops out at.

Good luck to those guys competing in the FL Rally and thanks for the feed back as it's going down.

[Sundance]

Was wondering---is anyone oing to post the results of the Hondas at this
meet? Only information posted so far is some Honda got towed in.

[psycho rxp]

I don't recall any entering the drag races..??:-k

[Hondastage1]

Randy,

I am glad it was not a serious problem. Also hope you understand me wanting to go get your friend with the 3 seater to tow you in. That was
Jims 1300 and Nater who stayed with you. That was some rough water you were broke down in.

See at Mud Bug.

It wasn't my Honda. I was there just as grunt support. A 15 minute ride took us a couple hours to get back to the dock.

Randy

[Hondastage1]

I don't recall any entering the drag races..??:-k

I liked the sound of your unit. It looked great even with the rough waters. I did not get to see the races Sunday. We had a plane to catch. How did the rest of the competition do and how many actually raced in that water? Did they do any speed recordings. Thanks for any tid bits.

Randy

[mtrager]

It wasn't my Honda. I was there just as grunt support. A 15 minute ride took us a couple hours to get back to the dock.

Randy

Randy ,

I saw the look on your face when I pulled up to you.

You guys got back to the dock in one piece and that was a great thing.

No matter how long it took.

[psycho rxp]

I liked the sound of your unit. It looked great even with the rough waters. I did not get to see the races Sunday. We had a plane to catch. How did the rest of the competition do and how many actually raced in that water? Did they do any speed recordings. Thanks for any tid bits.

Randy

Thanks randy. The Ultra kicked some ass, and Skip SC's RXT finished off the others. there was 13 racers in all. They didn't have a radar gun there....too rough for readings even if they had one:roll: .

[psycho rxp]

and the hot lap results

[psycho rxp]

Jason,

It was great riding with you as always. We were rocking.

I hope you got a video of Seadoolover riding my ski in the hot lap challenge.

Elliott, you did awesome.


Sure did ....as requested;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMMzxUQTkDo

[psycho rxp]

and a few more...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB0NSxhqWxQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw2sXStehkA

[mtrager]

Sure did ....as requested;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMMzxUQTkDo

Thanx Jason,

What we did not see was Elliott smacked the last four buoys with the nose of the ski. With a Jplate on that measured 1.074. Which equals 79.0
on glass water with trim tabs and full handling.

Good Job Elliott.:D At 350 lbs I am sure you were the lightest contestant.

I love you man. And I am proud to have you ride my ski.

[Sundance]

HMMMM-- NitroShark opened up this thread with a challange---in the two videos all I saw was mostly Sea-Doos--are the videos of the Honda meet?? What did I miss??

[Hondastage1]

and a few more...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB0NSxhqWxQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw2sXStehkA

Jason

Great videos thanks for the postings. I'm sure that I am not the only one enjoying them!!

Randy

[NitroShark]

cool vids... thanks for posting them

anybody that has ever raced knows a bad day at the races is 10X better than a good day at work.....:shock: ;)


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[ph2ocraft]

Jason

Great videos thanks for the postings. I'm sure that I am not the only one enjoying them!!

Randy

I just watched them as well, niiiice.
I liked the line about riding it like it was a rental car.:p

[Hondastage1]

The Sea Doo dealers were there. All you had to do was sign a waver and you gould go out and try the course on your own. They had a nice variety of products there. I tried my first RXP out. The water was rough The whine of the supercharger was cool. The power curve was snappy and crisp. I could get used to one without much trouble. But you guys know how it is. It just didn't feel like a Honda!


Randy

[skipSC]

Fast Hondas going to Rally series
and you better have something more (way more) than a Stock 1500cc SC RXP to keep up. thats what i'm talkin bout! :wink:

What happened! I saw you boy's out there, but none entered the drag race. We were ready to take a picture of a fast honda because nobody has seen one before.8-) I was ready with my 3 seater to have some fun, all well. Catch ya next time.

[Hondastage1]

Fast Hondas going to Rally series
and you better have something more (way more) than a Stock 1500cc SC RXP to keep up. thats what i'm talkin bout! :wink:

What happened! I saw you boy's out there, but none entered the drag race. We were ready to take a picture of a fast honda because nobody has seen one before.8-) I was ready with my 3 seater to have some fun, all well. Catch ya next time.


We only made it with one ski. We lost feed to the ignition box after hitting a wave. The box was guaranteed if returned to the dealer. There was no other options. We were really looking forward to letting you guys get a look at what is coming. A minor set back. With all the new Honda's flooding the market with super Price deals. There is going to be more technology coming.

[Hydrotoys]

More watercraft races have been lost to MSD ignition parts than to any other part on the market...something always fails.

Add salt water mist, and it's almost a guarantee.

Got a MSD powered GPR out here in the desert. Everytime the rider goes to the lake, the MSD shocks his throttle hand. :lol: Talk about a thilling ride!

[psycho rxp]

here's a few more

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMaRV2pKXfw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4dHHN0VCHc

[psycho rxp]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SkgXNxHga0

[Vman]

and you better have something more (way more) than a Stock 1500cc SC RXP to keep up. thats what i'm talkin bout! ;)


2007 Florida PWC Rally St. Petersburg, FL April 20-22
St. Petersburg is one of Florida’s premier watercraft riding areas with crystal clear waters of Egmont Key, vast riding areas of Tampa Bay, and a variety of conditions in between with the beautiful Holiday Inn Sunspree – Marina Cove (http://www.holiday-inn.com/marinacove-ss) being the center of all the action. We will mix in a handful of watercraft related activities on-water and off at this spectator and family friendly venue.

shawn


So let me get this straight... after this post only one "fast" Honda shows up and it breaks. Weak. I thought they didn't break?

Bring those fast Honda's down to Mud Bug- I hear there will be some competition for them down there...

[Sundance]

Vman--I think you hit the nail on the head.:lol: :lol: :lol: I too look forward to the Honduhs being at the Mud Bug.

[NitroShark]

Vman

if you race and make Big power you break. If you don't break parts you're not trying hard enough. :evil:

I'm not sure how you did in Florida with your ski because i wasn't there, How did you do? BTW

[NitroShark]

More watercraft races have been lost to MSD ignition parts than to any other part on the market...something always fails.

Add salt water mist, and it's almost a guarantee.

Yea, i agree they are the Kmart of CDI ignitions but when running they put out strong fire. there is a few more reasons i choose this model but i don't want to hijack the thread about CDI boxes

The DiS-4 boxs i use are not affective by salt water mist, because they are epoxy filed and totally encapsulated.

[Vman]

Vman

if you race and make Big power you break. If you don't break parts you're not trying hard enough. :evil:

I'm not sure how you did in Florida with your ski because i wasn't there, How did you do? BTW

:lol: Hey, that's the argument for a guy who's defending a Sea-Doo- not a Honda!

And no- I wasn't in Florida with my ski. I don't even own any fast skis- oh, wait- they may be considered fast by Honda standards....:lol:

You're the one who called guys out. Guess your "kitted skis" weren't up to the challenge... don't take it out on me.

[Vman]

I'm really not a bad guy when you get to know me... bit of a ball buster though- that I'll admit. :lol:

[ph2ocraft]

Vman, you have me rolling over here BUT the fact is you're gonna break until you find the right combo. Then you of course have the "uh oh" that shouldn't have been a problem event or events. Now we could go on about why a go fast boat breaks but I'm willing to bet you can create a longer list than myself.
Why break the balls of a guy that's at least stepping up to the plate?

[Hondastage1]

If Honda had made the MSD product we are using. There would have been a different outcome. We would at least have made a pass. We all have to start somewhere. We are not going to put our tails between our legs and go back into the shadows. Getting beat only makes me more creative and focused. Competition is Good for all of us!!


Randy

[mtrager]

Who won the hot lap challenge?

[Vman]

Vman, you have me rolling over here BUT the fact is you're gonna break until you find the right combo. Then you of course have the "uh oh" that shouldn't have been a problem event or events. Now we could go on about why a go fast boat breaks but I'm willing to bet you can create a longer list than myself.
Why break the balls of a guy that's at least stepping up to the plate?

Why?

#1 because of the first post- a bit confrontational, don't you think.

#2 it's fun, and I hope everyone involved can understand that it's only done in fun.

[Hydrotoys]

I watched $50k closed course boats get put on trailers from the sea-salt effecting the MSD ignitions. In fresh water they were fine. I wouldn't have believed it, unless I saw it with my own two teat-watchers.

Just from an uninformed source such as myself? Ditch the MSD. There has to be SOMETHING better for your setup.

[Vman]

If Honda had made the MSD product we are using. There would have been a different outcome. We would at least have made a pass. We all have to start somewhere. We are not going to put our tails between our legs and go back into the shadows. Getting beat only makes me more creative and focused. Competition is Good for all of us!!


Randy

Well, BRP doesn't manufacture their own engines- so I guess that lets them off the hook on the Sc issues too then. I understand that bigger power makes trade offs necessary- but the Sea-doos have been doing that all along and it never stopped anyone from scrutinizing their track record for quality and reliability.

Just goes to show ya that any manufacturer's product is gonna be less reliable when chasing speed and power- even Honda.

[ph2ocraft]

Just goes to show ya that any manufacturer's product is gonna be less reliable when chasing speed and power- even Honda.

Truer words have never been spoken.
But I certainly think more power and speed is worth the trade off.

[Hondastage1]

Who won the hot lap challenge?


The winners are posted 1,2,3 Jeb number 4. Won on his black and silver R12X. He run the course like a real pro. The Honda stuck to the track like it was made for it.

Randy

[mtrager]

The winners are posted 1,2,3 Jeb number 4. Won on his black and silver R12X. He run the course like a real pro. The Honda stuck to the track like it was made for it.

Randy

Thanx Randy, I knew that . Someone said the Hondas were not competitive.

I do not care how fast they are . They look good on the water.

[NitroShark]

thread hijack alert.....

Mark, the matching CDI to the ECU we use is $900 dealers cost, (the MSD has gone up,but its about $500 now and has epoxy filled internals)

The $900 CDI is Highly reliable but not water proof. The MSD either last forever or breaks without the first hour like Matt's did (we now know it melted.. :( )

i got over 35 MSDs working and 2 have failed.

I may however switch to the $900 one even if the kit goes up $400


thread Jack rant off. ;)