View Full Version : Question to SuperJim on Alpha kit?
jmssikes
12-09-2007, 10:32 PM
Super Jim,
I've got a 2005 R-12x, on your alpha kit (I think it's $150?) what gains can I expect and do I need other mods to fully gain anything? I still can run 93 octane right? You also provide step by step instructions right? Do you recommend modding my stock ride plate?
Thanks, any one with a super jim's kit, I'd love to hear the results!
1wingedrocket
12-10-2007, 06:16 PM
Hey, Gains with the kit are moderate you can add about 3 lb of boost to the unit, Id get a intercooler too, when you turn up boost it gets hotter so you will def need the intercooler, and also a 17/29 or 17/30 solas or skat trak prop. You will have to run a race gas+ pump gas mix tho with the setup, also a boost gauge would be helpfull in tuning the kit
Super Jim
12-26-2007, 04:40 PM
Joey, your answer is incorrect.
With the alpha kit, you can adjust boost to what ever level you want...from under stock to 25 psi. However, there are no benefits to running over 18 psi. Personally, the best bang for the buck is the Alpha kit with no intercooler and run 16 - 17 psi on 93 octane.
rcdragon
01-02-2008, 09:05 PM
Superjim,
Where do I find the Alpha kit and pricing? What are the expected gains if added to a stock 04 Honda R12-X? What is the difference between your kit and the Macsboost kit? Thanks in advance
JB
Super Jim
01-22-2008, 09:10 PM
You can e-mail me at longwith@comporium.net I check in here from time to time. The Alpha kit is a manual method of controlling boost where as Mac's module uses electronics. Mac actually came to see what I was doing with the Alpha and then tried it with a module and it worked. I like Mac's system and I think it is technically better. More expensive but better. However, I and a very few other people, for some reason, could not get sustained performance with Mac's. I tried it but wen back to my original Alpha. It was just faster. The downside of the Alpha is it takes time to set it up and adjust it. Then it occasionally trips an error code and you have to adjust it again. And like, Mac's, there have been a few ( I think only 2) that for some reason could not get it to run at full performance without constantlly tripping the error code. In those 2 cases, I just gave them a refund. But for most people, it performs very well and a very good price. You can get 3-4 mph top speed gain. The ride plate mod gets another 1-1.5 mph gain but it not required with the boost kit. PM me or e-mail me if you need more answers.
NitroShark
01-22-2008, 11:00 PM
Personally, the best bang for the buck is the Alpha kit with no intercooler and run 16 - 17 psi on 93 octane.
Jim is spot on with this once you get it adjusted.
IMO
btownhondaguy
02-16-2008, 01:14 PM
Can you use macs stage II kit and the alpha kit together or does it have to be one or the other?
Super Jim
02-24-2008, 09:46 PM
I don't think there is anything to keep you from using both together. I tried it for a while but did not find any advantage. So I went back to the Alpha alone.
btownhondaguy
02-24-2008, 11:05 PM
Where can i purchase the alpha kit at?
jpolete35
06-23-2008, 10:01 PM
how many p.s.i. is the stock boost?
cigarlust
06-24-2008, 07:23 PM
PM Superjim, he sells them!=D>
1tommygunner1927
06-24-2008, 10:40 PM
Joey, your answer is incorrect.
With the alpha kit, you can adjust boost to what ever level you want...from under stock to 25 psi. However, there are no benefits to running over 18 psi. Personally, the best bang for the buck is the Alpha kit with no intercooler and run 16 - 17 psi on 93 octane.
Is the WGS bypassed, or is the Alpha kit used with the WGS?
otnielarencibia
06-25-2008, 08:27 AM
I wonder Jim if bypassing the wgs like others have done will make me stop tripping the FI alarm. Yes I still have that problem. I just don't know where the controller would go connected in that case.
spatera
06-25-2008, 09:21 AM
It is bypassed. The reg goes in between the turbo and the WG actuator. You can control the pressure or lack of to increase the boost. The other part of his set-up tricks the ECM so it doesn't see the increase. I really like it and it also made the motor more linear in acceleration. It will pull hard from the bottom up and no turbo kick. It's all there. The system is not as hard to set up as I've seen posted. A little tinkering to set it up and your good to go. Mounting the boost gauge so you can see it while ridding makes it a lot easier plus you can see when your in boost and how much. I lower it when I let friends and kids ride.
1tommygunner1927
06-25-2008, 10:06 AM
It is bypassed. The reg goes in between the turbo and the WG actuator. You can control the pressure or lack of to increase the boost. The other part of his set-up tricks the ECM so it doesn't see the increase. I really like it and it also made the motor more linear in acceleration. It will pull hard from the bottom up and no turbo kick. It's all there. The system is not as hard to set up as I've seen posted. A little tinkering to set it up and your good to go. Mounting the boost gauge so you can see it while ridding makes it a lot easier plus you can see when your in boost and how much. I lower it when I let friends and kids ride.
Ok....and the WGS electronic connection remains hooked up or is it disconnected?
otnielarencibia
06-25-2008, 10:44 AM
So spatera your setup is different then how Jim sent it to us?
is it possible toucan take a picture of your setup? I just saw a picture of your setup in Pwctoday but it isn't too clear as to where everything goes connected.
spatera
06-25-2008, 08:15 PM
My WGS is still electrically connected but the hoses are just hanging. If you disconnect the wgs you'll get a FI code. I can take a pic but don't know if you can see much. There is just a hose from the turbo to the reg, then from the reg to the actuator. You can run the turbo about 17 psi and set the regulator to the lower pressure so it doesn't move the actuator too soon. Like I said, the other part of his kit controls what the TPS tells the ECM the pressure is.
It's a very simple kit and well worth the $150 Jim gets. I don't really care to go any faster than about 60-62 but I can get there in real big hang on tight hurry and I don't need top speed for the way I ride. I need bottom end. To be honest I also have the Solas grate and impeller but Jims kit made the ski come alive. Let me know if you still want pics. Steve
otnielarencibia
06-26-2008, 08:06 AM
well if you can get a picture of both up front and outback I'd appreciate it. Because I believe that's the way I have it connected. But I still get a FI alarm. Boost is at 16-17 psi... and 13 psi up front. I can't figure out why. But most importantly I need to figure out why my ski doesn't want to turn on so I can use it. Then set it what it needs to be.
spatera
06-26-2008, 10:20 AM
But I still get a FI alarm. Boost is at 16-17 psi... and 13 psi up front. I can't figure out why. But most importantly I need to figure out why my ski doesn't want to turn on so I can use it. Then set it what it needs to be.
Yea, that would make it easier to diagnose. Just BSing you. It won't start at all? I used to get the FI warning, now I leave the pressure to the TPS down to about 8-9 psi and never get one. I'll try to send pics today.
otnielarencibia
06-26-2008, 11:23 AM
LOL thanks. Once i get it started I'll try and set it lower then.
otnielarencibia
06-27-2008, 07:55 AM
LOL thanks. Once i get it started I'll try and set it lower then.
Got it started......
jpolete35
07-09-2008, 07:27 PM
Jim is spot on with this once you get it adjusted.
IMO
how much is involved in 'adjusting' it? is it something most people can do?
jp
cigarlust
07-09-2008, 08:26 PM
I'd like to know the above to... would adding a super jims kit nessitate the addition of a new impellor?
cigarlust
07-09-2008, 08:29 PM
Superjim or anyone else with the kit, is this easily removable in case I need to take it to the dealer for... a checkup?:-s
spatera
07-10-2008, 05:00 PM
how much is involved in 'adjusting' it? is it something most people can do?
jp
It's something anybody can do. It only takes a few runs to get it set. It's not as simple to remove as Macs module but it's still very easy. Depending on how you secure the hoses and gauges, it doesn't take too long. Just mark, remember or write down where they go. I don't think you need the impeller but it sure does make a difference.
Steve
Super Jim
07-10-2008, 08:53 PM
That is correct. You can make it easily removable and never know it was installed if you want or you can custom install it as far as you like.
M2008
07-12-2008, 11:37 PM
where can i order this kit?
1tommygunner1927
07-12-2008, 11:50 PM
It is bypassed. The reg goes in between the turbo and the WG actuator. You can control the pressure or lack of to increase the boost. The other part of his set-up tricks the ECM so it doesn't see the increase. I really like it and it also made the motor more linear in acceleration. It will pull hard from the bottom up and no turbo kick. It's all there. The system is not as hard to set up as I've seen posted. A little tinkering to set it up and your good to go. Mounting the boost gauge so you can see it while ridding makes it a lot easier plus you can see when your in boost and how much. I lower it when I let friends and kids ride.
A friend had a Hallman Boost Control Pro RX kit available......I installed it, added one turn, and use it in combination with Mac's module/IC/19 psi boost tube. Turbo lag is gone.....it hits NOW!!! I'm also using a Solas 17/30 impeller, keeping the rpm below the limiter at 6450. I'm using Torco as well, but its hard on plugs. Next addition will be a boost gauge.....
http://www.hallmanboostcontroller.com/applic.html
Super Jim
07-16-2008, 08:11 PM
You can order the Alpha Boost kits from me.
longwith@comporium.net
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