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    GIO Justification to get warranty work done

    Ok. I know this is an area that has been beat to death (and yes I have read the posts on GIO). I also know that some dealers are now actually admitting this is (was) an issue on the 07/08. AND have done some types of warrant work to help resolve this. My question(s) are:

    1. Has anyone had their dealer actually upgrade their 07 with the 09 pistons/rings and the water by-pass valve UNDER warranty?

    2. Under partial warranty? (you by the parts they do the work under warranty, or vice versa). I know some of you have had "re-ringing" under warranty.

    3. My dealer acknowleges GIO. They said they did "numerous" warranty plug changes due to GIO. It was a "headache" for them. They know the 07 was an issue with the blowby and the 07 pistons/rings. They've seen the almost 2 l of "fluid" I've drained out of the OCMS. (BTW I am waiting for the analysis of that fluid to come back.) However they are balking at the idea of doing the 09 pistons/rings and by-pass valve under warranty(even though they admit the 09's have ZERO GIO issues. I still have 2.5 years left under my extended warranty.

    4. So with all that said, how can I pursuade them to do this under warranty? I am hoping my analysis comes back positive for fuel. I am willing to buy 09 piston set and by-pass valve and let them do labor under warranty or vice versa.

    5. Or is this a dead topic and try my best to pursuade them but in the end may have to pay for all.


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    Heres my experience..............

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    thanks!!!!! anyone else?????? I got the results back from the fluid. >10% fuel. The company that did the analysis stated this as critical. See attached. So this is my ammunition. Any other suggestions??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooah_Killer View Post
    thanks!!!!! anyone else?????? I got the results back from the fluid. >10% fuel. The company that did the analysis stated this as critical. See attached. So this is my ammunition. Any other suggestions??
    Testing the drained fluid seems like a great idea.
    I have about 1/2 gallon of the stuff I can bring in to them....would look even better with a used oil analysis sheet.
    My dealer will prolly just try to sell me an '09....saying..." These don't have an oil contamination problems"

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    The only problem I see is that you are testing the fluid that is coming out of the catch can, and not the crankcase...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooah_Killer View Post

    water by-pass valve UNDER warranty?
    By-passing what?
    '09 doesn't have it. But it has the check-valve elbow fitting under the waterbox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra250 Tn View Post
    The only problem I see is that you are testing the fluid that is coming out of the catch can, and not the crankcase...........
    How would they be different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by meangreenman View Post
    How would they be different?
    The fluid in the catch can is only fuel vapours and other crap that have returned to a liquid state so it WILL only be fuelly crap that is vented from the Crankcase mixed with some oil.and water content depending on riding conditions

    thats wot the can doe,s catch's bad stuff

    now if the sump oil is STILL high in fuel % then you might have a problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by meangreenman View Post
    How would they be different?
    Remember, it's gas in OIL, not in your catch can.
    Test the used oil, not the fluid in the can.

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    But if he had not capped the can.....that stuff would be in his crankcase....like kawi designed it.
    So maybe suck out all the oil and make a milkshake with the canned fluid and retest

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