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    Smile Things you have to believe to be a Republican today.

    Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush’s daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him, and a bad guy when Bush needed a “we can’t find Bin Laden” diversion.


    Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is Communist, but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.


    The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.


    The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches, while slashing veterans’ benefits and combat pay.


    If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won’t have sex.


    A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, then demand their cooperation and money.


    Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy, but providing health care to all Americans is socialism. HMOs and insurance companies have the best interests of the public at heart.


    Global warming and tobacco’s link to cancer are junk science, but creationism should be taught in schools.


    A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable offense, but a president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is solid defense policy.


    Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet.


    The public has a right to know about Hillary’s cattle trades, but George Bush’s driving record is none of our business.


    Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you’re a conservative radio host. Then it’s an illness and you need our prayers for your recovery.


    You support states’ rights, but the Attorney General can tell states what local voter initiatives they have the right to adopt.


    What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest, but what Bush did in the ’80s is irrelevant.


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    Quote Originally Posted by miketrin View Post


    Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is Communist, but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.


    The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.



    Global warming and tobacco’s link to cancer are junk science, but creationism should be taught in schools.
    I never understood the first one... Why don't we have a problem with Cuba? That whole nation is just as oppressive as NK and China. I don't know.. I guess has to do with the threat from them? Seriously.. no clue..

    U.N. is worthless...the DPRK could Nuke S.K. and they would write a letter. If S.K. retaliated, they would condemn them. Hez/Israel was a perfect example of that. Hez attacks Israel, Israel fights back, Israels the bad guys...

    Global warming is a natural phenomonon. Do we have an effect? Hell yes we do. But to think we can stop it is asinine. But hell, at least someones trying..

    Never understood why it was such a big deal that Bill got a BJ either. Happens everyday, all day, in every other job in the country. He was impeached cause he lied under oath, but IMO he shouldnt have even been grilled for it in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pettee View Post
    Happens everyday, all day, in every other job in the country.
    Everyone is going to want to get a job where you work now!

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    Haha... Doesnt happen here... that i know of.. at least not for me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pettee View Post
    Never understood why it was such a big deal that Bill got a BJ either.
    Pettee, I understand what youre saying here, but there's another view that I have some experience with. I've worked with middle and high school students for 18 years. When Bill denied having "sexual relations" with Monica and then the truth about what he had done came out two things began to change among teens - more teens started to view oral sex as more "acceptable" than vaginal sex and more teens started having oral sex. It became a big problem among 7th and 8th graders in one school system I used to be associated with. Students have told me that a girl who gives BJs to lots of guys is considered cool but a girl who sleeps around with lots of guys is considered a slut. Consider this...

    "Researchers from the University of California, San Francisco, report in the April 2005 edition of Pediatrics the results of a survey conducted on 580 ninth-grade youth in regards to their perceptions and behaviors about oral sex. Overall, 19.6% of respondents (18.2% male and 20.8% female) have had oral sex. Youth estimate that 46.72 out of 100 teens their age have had oral sex."

    The reason I say all this is to say that leadership is not a privilege, it's a responsibility. I believe Clinton's words and actions had a significant impact on the sexual attitudes and behavior of teenagers. To me, that's a big deal, and since I'm the one working with these teenagers I get to help them clean up the emotional, physical and spiritual pain many of them deal with as a result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miketrin View Post
    Global warming and tobacco’s link to cancer are junk science.
    Haha, I don't think they're junk science but I have one question pertaining to global warming: The central United States used to be a giant sea/ocean. This has been scientifically proven with the findings of prehistoric whale bones, shark bones, and other sea animals. So where did all that water come from and where did it go?

    Ice caps maybe? Now Im not saying that I'd like to see a giant sea cover that part of the U.S. again, as it would affect many lives, but we (humans) had nothing to do with that water getting there or leaving there. So maybe this global warming thing is just another natural change in Earth's climate cycle.

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    i think if you vote along party lines you're an idiot....period. washington needs to be cleaned out and we need to start all over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanCucf View Post
    i think if you vote along party lines you're an idiot....period. washington needs to be cleaned out and we need to start all over again.
    good point politics suck to much divides makes friends enimies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG View Post
    Pettee, I understand what youre saying here, but there's another view that I have some experience with. I've worked with middle and high school students for 18 years. When Bill denied having "sexual relations" with Monica and then the truth about what he had done came out two things began to change among teens - more teens started to view oral sex as more "acceptable" than vaginal sex and more teens started having oral sex. It became a big problem among 7th and 8th graders in one school system I used to be associated with. Students have told me that a girl who gives BJs to lots of guys is considered cool but a girl who sleeps around with lots of guys is considered a slut. Consider this...

    "Researchers from the University of California, San Francisco, report in the April 2005 edition of Pediatrics the results of a survey conducted on 580 ninth-grade youth in regards to their perceptions and behaviors about oral sex. Overall, 19.6% of respondents (18.2% male and 20.8% female) have had oral sex. Youth estimate that 46.72 out of 100 teens their age have had oral sex."

    The reason I say all this is to say that leadership is not a privilege, it's a responsibility. I believe Clinton's words and actions had a significant impact on the sexual attitudes and behavior of teenagers. To me, that's a big deal, and since I'm the one working with these teenagers I get to help them clean up the emotional, physical and spiritual pain many of them deal with as a result.
    Interesting take that I never even thought of before...

    Had never thought that that would end up as a reason for kids to think that it was ok. I Don't remember what year that happened, but Clinton was president throughout my entire childhood (Graduated HS in 2002). It never had that effect on me, but it makes sense that it would have on others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nater785p View Post
    good point politics suck to much divides makes friends enimies...

    I was with a girl up in VT, spent all evening with her, and around 3 am somehow we got into a discussion in someones dorm about politics......
    anyway.. ended up sleepin alone that night.

    Friends again though.

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