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    Honda hull features.

    I stopped by Jack's [Full Throttle Powerboats] to drop off some trailer hardware I wanted and to look at the work he had done on my boat and PWCs. Jack and I were talking about the Honda hulls and he said the hull had a whole lot of very strange design features and he pointed out various humps and dimples in strange places. Since he also works on all major brands of PWCs, he is well versed in hull designs. He said every one of these weird design features were there to do something at certain performance attitudes.
    This really sinks the assertion by Honda haters that the Honda hull was nothing but a Tigershark copy, since Tigershark would never have spent the developement time/money to test all the mold features the Honda hull has.


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    The humps and dimples were added in to the later models from the research learned from the 2002-2003 hulls.

    The molds had nothing to do with Tigershark first ones came from Japan, then after startup Canada.

    Shawn

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    Thanks, Shawn.
    Good information.

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    Further, The early Hulls made in Japan were "hand laid" but the Canadian hulls were produced with robots, That's why they were heavier.


    Shawn

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    Handling quirks

    Have to agree with the poster here about the weird hull designs affecting the handling in specific areas.

    My f15x leans the moment you turn the bars off center and turns sluggishly if cruising and sitting down.

    Every time I start to notice this and if in a twisty turny place like cottonwood canyon on lake power I have tobkick my self and remember this is not really a couch.

    Ok stand up put you butt back rotate your shoulders forward. In other words. "-attack position"

    Turn on the throttle hard. Oh my it turns. 20-60 just carves.

    Reminds me of a cr250 dirt bike. Cruises ok but made to be a high speed rough water agressively ridden race toy.

    The lean makes you notice the sharp pointed double v stepped bottom.

    Like a rock and roll recording. Not sure if you like it? Turn it up. Aha!

    Totally unlike the 02 f-12x i sold. It turned with the throttle off. Not this one.

    When the water got rough the f-12x quickly ran into it's limits. Not so the f-15x

    Just like my ktm. Stand up and turn it on. Some or a lot. Just on.

    Need to compare the sea doo sc next to itbon the trailer from underneath but definitely way different.

    Now how to make it turn around buoys?

    The 12 easily turned inside of it.

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    Both the F and R 12 hull designs are one of the worst post Y2K hull designs I have ever ridden.

    The R-12X reminded me slight of my old Yami Raider 1100.

    The 15 hull is miles apart from its predecessor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-ME View Post
    Both the F and R 12 hull designs are one of the worst post Y2K hull designs I have ever ridden.

    The R-12X reminded me slight of my old Yami Raider 1100.

    The 15 hull is miles apart from its predecessor.
    Must be the difference in our riding style, but I have a blast on my F12X.
    I read how many a person who buys an Allison and then sells it because they can't drive it and are convinced that Allisons are not good boats.

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    What other 'skis have you owned/ridden that you are comparing riding a R hull and having a blast?

    What is your riding style?

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    Mostly Kawis, Seedoos and Yamahas, some standups. We ride very hard [WOT] on 50' wide creeks with 180* blind turns. Used to do a lot of jumping but 10 knee surgeries have taken the fun out of it.

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    I love my R-12x, I removed two bars from the intake grate and put a solas 17/29 and it's a much better ski! I forgot I can get decent air when it has one bar of fuel without having to super blip the throttle at 40 and risk a nasty landing.

    I'd like to do the macc chip at some point...

    Fuel economy is great!

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