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    Need the specs on cylinder sleeve

    Cant find my notes, any one have a stock 701 or 1100 sleeve so they can measure the outside diameter, ?, thanks


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    Quote Originally Posted by BULLRAIDER View Post
    Cant find my notes, any one have a stock 701 or 1100 sleeve so they can measure the outside diameter, ?, thanks
    Your PITBULLS ate your notes.

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    Hey Bull, I don’t have any liners, but I measured the liner fits in a cylinder and saw 3.5435 . The liner is probably .003” tight.

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    The O.D. for the sleve is 3.55 inches.

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    thank you .

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    How hard is it to remove a cylinder sleeve from one set and install it
    in another set.

    Scott............

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    Not hard at all. It's always good the practice on a junk set to get the feel.

    Here is something from LA Sleeve that may help you.

    CYLINDER SLEEVE INSTALLATION PROCEDURE
    Step 1. The cylinder must be stripped of all removable parts: studs, nuts, bolts, manifolds, etc.
    Step 2. The cylinder is bored out to accept the sleeve. When the sleeve is installed into an all
    aluminum cylinder, the interference fit is .004. When the sleeve is being installed into a
    cast iron cylinder bore, the interference fit is .002 to .003.
    The interference fit is determined by measuring the outside diameter of the sleeve, then
    boring the cylinder diameter smaller than the sleeve.
    The interference fit is a critical aspect of sleeve installation because this step insures
    that the sleeve does not move when in the cylinder. Also, proper interference fit is
    important for cylinder cooling purposes.
    Step 3. The cylinder is then heated in an oven between 400o, up to 450o for an hour or more.
    Do not use a torch or hot plate for this procedure. It is important that the cylinder heats
    uniformly.
    Step 4. The cylinder is then removed from the oven and the sleeve will drop easily into the cylinder.
    Turning the sleeve by hand to line up the ports is a common practice, or you can use a
    needle nose type device to align the ports.
    You will have between five and ten seconds before the sleeve and cylinder lock up.
    Step 5. The cylinder must then be put under a hydraulic press to keep the sleeve from rising while
    the cylinder is cooling.
    Step 6. The ports of the sleeve must then be blended with the cylinder by using an assortment of
    hand grinding porting tools. Mismatched ports will cause some power loss to the engine.
    Step 7. After the ports have been matched, the cylinder (sleeve) must be bored out and honed to
    insure proper piston clearance.
    Measure your piston at the skirt to properly bore the sleeved cylinder to the correct
    bore size. Chamfer the edges of all the ports to prevent the rings from catching on a sharp
    edge.
    Next, hone your cylinder to the correct piston clearance.
    Properly sleeved cylinders can use the O.E.M. recommended piston clearance. If you
    have a doubt, add a half thousandth (.0005) to the clearance.
    Step 8. As an added finishing touch, surface decking the top of the cylinder is recommended in
    order to make sure that the head gasket will sit flat on the cylinder to create a good sealing
    surface.
    Make sure you only take the minimum cut off the top of the cylinder.
    Manufacturers of Cylinder Sleeves
    12051 Rivera Rd., Santa Fe Springs, CA 90670 USA (562) 945-7578 / 1-888-ITS NIKS FAX (562) 698-7029

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    J-me have you done this
    If I heat cylinders in an oven at 450 for an hour will the sleeves drop out or will they need to be pulled out.
    After heating cylinders and sleeves to remove sleeves are the sleeves anealed or softened in any way.
    Is there any reason I cant take a 84mm sleeve out of 1 set of cylinders and then install it in another set of cylinders ?

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    I have used a Bernzomatic torch (Lowes, Home Depot) with MAP gas for removing them. Only took about 10 minutes or so. They will swap fine as long as they were not part of a ported cylinder/sleeve combo.

    When the cylinder gets the right temp. they will slide right out, so have your welder's gloves ready. I use the oven and freezer for putting the sleeves back in.

    If LA Sleeve is posting the info about the ovens, I believe that the temp that is specified will be safe for the sleeves.

    A little yamabond at the top goes along way at preventing water leaks.

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    Sounds like a future project my landlord would have a cow.
    Has to smell quite a bit I would do it outside.
    Thanks J-me.

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