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    250x vs 260x vs 300x ?

    After enjoying the hell out of a 2007 non s/c Ultra LX I bought for the gf recently, we're thinking about buying a second watercraft (my SXR ain't too great for the longer rides through the Topoc Gorge).

    I'm considering a faster Ultra, like listed in my title. For a NO race application, will the 250 be almost as great as a 300?

    I understand the 300 has the better pump setup and 50 more horses, but I'm looking for the used value king. If the 250 is 90% the ski the 300 is at 60% the price, I'd be very interested!

    Please let me now if there's any solid reasons to buy one ski over the other (including the 260) for a rec application.

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    When you get into the supercharged Kawi skis there is a lot more to maintain than the non s/c models.
    I'd read up on the maintaining aspect of the ski and then look at performance.

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    I would look into a 2010 260 or the 300 ONLY
    Reason for 260- Great deals out there 2010 was when the pump shaft was upgraded. Good power with a great Ultra ride. Many parts will interchange between it and you LX. Plate, Grate, Pump not the (impeller) is the same. Along with many other parts but You would only have to have one spare pump as back up rather than 2 since they are different pumps with the 300

    Reasons for the 300- I feel would have a better resale value, cruise control since you are touring, ECO Mode. this ski is VERY economical. Since I have both the LX and the 300 I can verify that at the same speeds, the 300 in eco mode and the LX get the just about the same fuel economy. Very impressive with the 300. There are a few other little differences like the bar width and other things but nothing really that would make a big difference on just a rec ski.

    My personal opinion/suggestion- If you can afford it go with the 300. If it is a little out of your range the 260 will suit you fine. It's comfort and feel will be the same as your LX just with more power.

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    I agree 2010 260 would be the best choice cost wise and is a great ski. They can be had new for $9500 if you can afford a 300 I'd go that route. For the options mentioned. Both are great skis. If your try to stay in the 6k and under range then you can go with a 250 just check it out really well and make sure it was taken care of. And there are a few mods you will want to do right away upgrading the pump etc. good luck.

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    Ok, thx for all the info. I can afford a 300, just figured if the smaller displacement ultras have a better 'bang for the buck' factor, then I'd go for it.

    There's a 2009 260 in 2 hours away with a warranty thru 2014 and a trailer. Sub 40 hrs and I like the trailer. Think he's asking $9500. I'll keep an eye out for a 300 tho.

    Are you guys saying ANY 300 will have the benefits you listed?

    Do the 300 and non s/c ultra lx I have share the same oil, filter, and plugs at least?

    Thx guys

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    The 260 is a great ski and worth the money. If the ECO and Cruise were not on the 300 It would be a no brainer go with the 260.

    Yes any 300. They are all the same other than color, seat or GPS holder.

    You can convert the LX to the 300 oil filter and plugs but not the other way around. I use all the same on my two skis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grant22 View Post
    Ok, thx for all the info. I can afford a 300, just figured if the smaller displacement ultras have a better 'bang for the buck' factor, then I'd go for it.

    There's a 2009 260 in 2 hours away with a warranty thru 2014 and a trailer. Sub 40 hrs and I like the trailer. Think he's asking $9500. I'll keep an eye out for a 300 tho.

    Are you guys saying ANY 300 will have the benefits you listed?

    Do the 300 and non s/c ultra lx I have share the same oil, filter, and plugs at least?

    Thx guys
    That's overpriced for the 2009 260 there are huge changes between 2009-2010. I'f u can't find a 2010 then get a 300. Like i said u can get brand new 2010 260 for 9500$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FIRE0021 View Post
    That's overpriced for the 2009 260 there are huge changes between 2009-2010. I'f u can't find a 2010 then get a 300. Like i said u can get brand new 2010 260 for 9500$.
    Yes I need to clarify when I said the 260 is a good ski and worth the money I was not talking about the one mentioned. I agree it is overpriced and not the year you want anyway. As we mentioned it would have to be a 2010 up.
    Check around you can find some good deals on left over 2011 300s

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    Thanks very much for narrowing everything down. It's a very big help.

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    Just glad to help out and se how much you are enjoying the PWC world. If you really want something to throw in the mix you can look at the 15F. Non supercharged, not as comfortable of a ride and an Ultra but not not a bad ride as rar al most of the skis go. It will run just about as fast as the 250 with minimal bolt ons and much less maintenance and a basically bulletproof ski that has been around for years. You had mentioned bang for the buck and I like the 15F in that aspect. That and the LX are very interchangable. they have the same engine. The 15F will be much cheaper to purchase and some others can help out with what is needed in the few bolt ons but they will run mid to upper 60s without reducing any reliability or lessening ride comfort. Not at all trying to talk you out of a 300 but with reading everything you have written
    "but I'm looking for the used value king"------- lower initial cost and much less maintenance. once a year oil changes. basically a gas and go ski

    "and non s/c ultra lx I have share the same oil, filter, and plugs at least?"----------- Yes exactly the same

    "I'm considering a faster Ultra, like listed in my title. For a NO race application, will the 250 be almost as great as a 300?"--------- Not racing, a 250 would be fast enough for you but you did mention a faster Ultra. This is the only thing that the 15F is not. It is not an Ultra but still a very good lake and river ski.

    Lastly since the 15F has been the same for years you are not limited to just a recent model. I am sure you can easily find a used low hour ski that I would still get completely checked out but you could get one for literally half the price of the 260 or 300. Brand new leftovers you can even get with a trailer and a GTTP extended warranty for the price of a 260. This way you will have a few years to not worry about anything on a fun, pretty fast, reliable, low operating cost ski for a while.
    Just wanted to throw this into the mix as it is a gret ski and is often overlooked.

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