08-11-2012, 10:26 PM #1
What 2 stroke oil are you running!?
I made this thread for a couple reasons
1) because I have searched and searched and only found topics on Wally oil and oem which I refuse to use either
2) because I have searched google for days with not much info for new to Polaris skiis like myself
3) so people don't get screwed like myself by servicers who sell ridiculous priced oils like brp xps @ $13.00+/- a quart
Post up brand
Price per quart/gallon
Maybe where you picked it up
How it runs compared to xxxx
Polaris recommends tcw3 oil
08-11-2012, 10:35 PM #2
Mystic Sea and Snow (very similar or same as Citgo Sea and Snow??) - $19.99 gal at Big R farm store
Cabela's Semi-Synthetic 2-stroke oil - $17.99 gal at Cabela's.
I have run Cabela's for a few years now and Mystic this season. They work great for my skis... stock power wise... nothing high performance.
08-11-2012, 10:47 PM #3
Kawasaki 2 stroke. 18-20$ gal. Just about anywhere (to buy it) Dino oil. No issues. Ran in Yamaha, (701) Kawasaki (750) Polaris (750).
08-11-2012, 11:06 PM #4
08-12-2012, 09:30 AM #5
- Join Date
- Jun 2007
- Long Island,NY
08-12-2012, 10:02 AM #6
- Join Date
- Jul 2007
- near Toronto, Canada
People are running almost every brand and grade of oil that there is. These engines are fairly tough so even a 'poor' oil is not going to have immediate consequences.
The main questions with oil are how long the engine lasts between rebuilds (the 'wear rate') and how well the oil protects the internal bearings and parts from rust while the engine is just sitting.
For engines with power exhaust valves (Pro785) the oil must also minimize combustion deposits that can gum up and stick the valves. Even the regular engines will be unhappy if the oil creates excessive gummy deposits or carbon build up behind the piston rings.
Some oils will generate more exhaust smoke than others and some oils have an unpleasant odor when burned.
Synthetics are expected to provide excellent lubrication in a running engine. Some synthetics are probably better than others, but I am not going to go there.
Non-synthetic oils range from excellent to barely acceptable. It is entirely possible for an excellent non-synthetic oil to provide better lubrication that some synthetics.
When the engine is NOT being used, the oil still has a job to do. The oil must coat and protect the internal crankcase and piston bearings, cylinder walls and piston rings. It must not evaporate, dry out or wick away during extended periods of non-use.
Polaris recommends these engines be fogged with 2-stroke fogging oil if the engine is going to be sitting for more than a week or two. For salt water machines the recommendation is to fog the engine after every day on the water.
Of course many owners do not fog their engine during the riding season and the engine may sit for weeks between uses.
Some oils may provide better protection during the non-running periods. Some synthetics and racing oils might not provide as much corrosion protection in order to maximize other aspects of the oil performance.
There are many opinions regarding oil choices. There are a number of excellent oils available and many more that are 'good enough'. Which are in which category is the interesting question!
08-12-2012, 11:54 AM #7
08-12-2012, 12:10 PM #8
Lucas 2 cycle no smoke synthetic for break-in $8 per qt,
Pensoil twc3 now around $22 per gal.
08-12-2012, 12:16 PM #9
Penzoil TCW-3 Semi Synthetic
Walmart - $22-23 gallon.
2-3 years use, no issue
Prior to that:
Penzoil TCW-3 std.
7-8 years, no issue.
I would agree that the Supra-Tec from Walmart if probably not a great idea, since the cheapest of anything usually is.
08-12-2012, 02:35 PM #10
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