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    Polaris virage txi hard to start

    Hi. I have been looking around this site for weeks trying to found out solutions for my virage 2001 txi. I could fix almost all issues, but there is still one remaining.
    Hard to start
    Cold, warm or hot, i can't start up without starter spray...
    I don't have 20 volt in white /red wire that go to injectors while cranking.(11volt)


    What should I do next?


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    only 11 volts is the problem. STOP using ether. Use a little gas in a squirt bottle instead. A cheapie way around this would to use primers.

    When it's running, what voltage are you seeing at the injectors and does the check engine lamp flash?

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    Not engine lamp flashing.
    I have 20v out the EMM white/red cable while cranking.
    41v while running at the injectors.

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    so is it 11 or 20v when cranking?

    have you checked fuel pressure? ( easy test, pinch off the return line while cranking, if ther eis a regulator problem, this may allow enough pressure for a reliable start

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    I have tested the white/red cable just near of the injection connectors while cranking and was 11v.

    Then I did the same at the output of EMM and I got 20v,, I don't know why if I have 20v out of the EMM, 11v goes to the injectors... (both tested during cranking)

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    ok..I get it now.

    You need at least 20v ( I thought the minimum was a few volts more) at the injectors while cranking so check voltage with just one injector plugged in, one may be drawing more then it's fair share of power. Once isolated you can trace it out.. Sounds a little weak in the v's to me. Likely the emm is damaged. 41v while running is pretty good..think that has to be 45.

    for $700+ ( the cost of an emm repair), I'd be buying a primer kit (if a little raw gas can get it to start) and calling it a day...but it is going to crap out 100% at some point. Make sure you have a good battery with solid connections and you can delay the expensive repair for the off season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arqjorgelg View Post
    I have tested the white/red cable just near of the injection connectors while cranking and was 11v.

    Then I did the same at the output of EMM and I got 20v,, I don't know why if I have 20v out of the EMM, 11v goes to the injectors... (both tested during cranking)
    Where are you putting the black meter probe for these measurements?

    20 volts out of the EMM is close to correct, unless you unplugged the connector to make the measurement.
    The EMM output will be different (higher) if there is no electrical load.

    Unplug one injector at a time. See if it will start with one injector unplugged.
    Last edited by K447; 08-28-2012 at 09:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nmpeter View Post
    ... I'd be buying a primer kit (if a little raw gas can get it to start) and calling it a day...
    Any potential issues with splicing a primer kit into a 20-30 PSI fuel system?

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    actually, no. Tapped into the low point on return line on a TS 1100 after the in line regulator ( ala kawasaki di). Used a summit racing fuel pump on it too!.

    real money pit..don't get me started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nmpeter View Post
    actually, no. Tapped into the low point on return line on a TS 1100 after the in line regulator (ala kawasaki di)...
    Hmmm, well no inline fuel pressure regulator in a stock Polaris Ficht.

    Interesting idea though. Wonder if there is a safe way to do a primer install on Polaris Ficht...

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