Thread: Dual Maps on M400
10-16-2012, 05:14 AM #1
Dual Maps on M400
Ok so who is running dual maps in their motec? I want a 100% tune and then something at 80% for friends to ride with the flick of a switch.
where can i get more info? what is the best way of running a 80% tune ie, can i just modify the throttle position or do I have to something more serious with a whole new map with less timing/fuel
Does the wiring harness need to be modified for the switch and what switches are recommended?
sure to have more questions but i will start there!!
10-17-2012, 09:08 AM #2
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Good thread I will like to know how to do that 2
10-17-2012, 03:14 PM #3
My proffesional opinion would be this
The M400 is capable of running up to 4 entirely different MAPS inside, its a very powerful feature BUT it is difficult to manage the files themselves.
3 of the MAPS are stored in slots that you cant see untill you switch them into the Adjust slot that you can see, once in the adjust slot you can modify and switch back, but it gets confusing as to which map is where as the maps themselves all look the same, I am sure it could be made less confusing but at this point its not so my advice would be to steer clear of the feature unless you were willing to put in a lot of time getting very familiar with how it all works.
That said, the reality is that in 95% of cases you dont even need to run multi Maps anyway, what you need to do is run a multi adjustable single Map, this way you know what you got.
Let me explain
So you fit a switch on the dash and wire it into a spare AT or AV input
You allocate that input to a user channel and call it say " Rider Selection"
You then allocate your new channel on to the DBW throttle comp table and build a profile to suit
So when the switch is up you could do 0 lever position = 0 throttle and 100% lever = 100% throtle
When the switch is down you could do 0 lever = 0 throttle and 100% lever = 60% throttle.
This is of course a very simple profile but you get the idea I am sure.
Same can apply to the ign table
Switch up = normal ign
Switch down = -5 degrees ign
Same with the fuel table
Swith up is normal fuel
Switch down is 5% extra fuel, or what ever
Got a Turbo? , same thing again
Switch up normal boost
Switch down 5 PSI less
With this method you can design and run 2 different mapping styles all within the same actual Map itself, and its very transparant to see what is going on
If you get your head arounf that and you want more adjustability you can fit a 9 position rotary switch instead of 2 position and you can 9 different adjustments of throttle/ign/fue/boost
Good enough I would suggest
Hope this helps
10-17-2012, 07:59 PM #4
The % on throttle position will be the way to go for me. I will have a look and update once I have nutted it out.
So based on the 9 position switch setup ill assume that you could do any combination up to 9, such as a 3 position switch for a 60%, 80% 100% throttle position setup? Very neat!!!
Got any suggestions on Switches for watercrafts?
10-17-2012, 09:51 PM #5
Otherwise talk to your local electronics supply store and get their advise on a good 2 or 3 position switch
What you are aiming to acheive is a switch that creates different voltages at the ECU
2 position is easy, more than that and you have to put in resistors etc to make it work.
10-18-2012, 06:31 AM #6
Then in ECU manager run 2 inputs 80%/0 volts 100%/8 volts setup in the calibration table of the user/input table?
am i on the right track? or totally off?
10-21-2012, 07:18 PM #7
So allocate AV5 to a spare user channel and set up custom calibration as percentage
and you will end up with 2 possible voltages, 0v or 8v and yes you can then allocate any percentage you like to that
Only 1 trap here
In the input set up there are preset diagnostic levels
You need to change them so that they wont be triggered as you will end up triggering the alarm
So move the dia low to -5V and the diag high to 15V
Give it a go and let me know how you get on
Dont forget to log your new channel so you can keep an eye on it as well as log the DBW comp channel that you are using.
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