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    Clocking the Cam Gear (Question)

    I have the crank lock tool in as well as the cam lock tool and cannot get the 1503 marks to line up on a perfect horzontal plane with the head. If I move it one tooth in ether direction, it is still out equally. Is this ok?

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    U can never get it perfect horizontal , there is too much play ...

    Get the lines so they dip to the left lightly and then put the tensioner in and it will be close ...

    But it also depends on how u set ur timing ...

    Compression can increase and decrease on how u set ur timing up ...

    Make sure u turn it a full revolution to make sure it's right ...

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    When putting in the tensioner, should it go in smooth and easy or is it normal that it took some UMPHHH to push the tensioner screw in to get a few threads started?

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    Looks like on pic 2 you are at full retard and pic 3 you are at full advance. you want the slack in the chain on the right so when you put tensioner in it pulls it close with lines slightly to left and bolts centered. If that makes sense..

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    Quote Originally Posted by icdoo View Post
    Looks like on pic 2 you are at full retard and pic 3 you are at full advance. you want the slack in the chain on the right so when you put tensioner in it pulls it close with lines slightly to left and bolts centered. If that makes sense..
    Total nonsense. With both crank tools in place and tensioner properly installed, you are dead nuts on timing, none of this advance/retard bullshit. The 1503 marks are only there for reference, they are very rarely level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Dood View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by icdoo View Post
    Looks like on pic 2 you are at full retard and pic 3 you are at full advance. you want the slack in the chain on the right so when you put tensioner in it pulls it close with lines slightly to left and bolts centered. If that makes sense..
    Total nonsense. With both crank tools in place and tensioner properly installed, you are dead nuts on timing, none of this advance/retard bullshit. The 1503 marks are only there for reference, they are very rarely level.
    Thanks. Once I put the tensioner in, it lined up a little better and the bolts did nearly hit center of the cam gear slots. Now it's just slightly high on the right side.

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    +1. U will never get the lines to be perfect. As long as you have the crankshaft and camshaft tool in, then you are set at factory timing.

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    Everyone in this thread do yourself a favor and read this. Verns thread is the holy grail of cam timing info.

    http://www.greenhulk.net/forums/show...ght=cam+timing

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    Quote Originally Posted by icdoo View Post
    Looks like on pic 2 you are at full retard and pic 3 you are at full advance. you want the slack in the chain on the right so when you put tensioner in it pulls it close with lines slightly to left and bolts centered. If that makes sense..
    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Dood View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by icdoo View Post
    Looks like on pic 2 you are at full retard and pic 3 you are at full advance. you want the slack in the chain on the right so when you put tensioner in it pulls it close with lines slightly to left and bolts centered. If that makes sense..
    Total nonsense. With both crank tools in place and tensioner properly installed, you are dead nuts on timing, none of this advance/retard bullshit. The 1503 marks are only there for reference, they are very rarely level.
    According to the shop manual, the cam gear can be installed either way as depicted in the OP photos. But one is more desirable than the other.......the 1503 marks should be as level as possible. I believe it has to do with the camshaft position sensor and cam gear post.

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    doesn't change the cam timing just the indicator for the cam sensor

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