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    EPA V Blended Fuel

    Good morning,


    I still maintain my American Motorcycle Association membership even though I have stopped riding.


    Today's email from the AMA had an article that the EPA has acknowledged that Ethanol in the gasoline is harmful. My first thoughs were 'Yes, we already know that. How many have bought new string trimmers because the ethanol ate up the fuel system? Even with the proposed labeling and move to E15, big deal, I don't have a retail choice to NOT buy Blended Gas.'

    http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/...orthought.aspx

    What are your thoughs, experiences, workarounds on this issue, if any?


    Thanks
    Steve
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sundancer View Post
    ... Today's email from the AMA had an article that the EPA has acknowledged that Ethanol in the gasoline is harmful...

    http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/...orthought.aspx

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    Do you have a direct link to the EPA acknowledgement?

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    This is the note i received.



    EPA acknowledges ethanol damages engines
    Proposed new labeling rule would prove ineffective
    Submit comments today!
    The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has publicly acknowledged that ethanol in gasoline can damage internal combustion engines by increasing exhaust temperatures and indirectly causing component failures.
    Yet, even with this knowledge, the Federal Trade Commission is recommending more labeling at the gas pump as its solution to the problem.
    The American Motorcyclist Association believes that is not enough.
    The Federal Trade Commission issued a rule proposal

    https://www.federalregister.gov/arti...on-and-posting

    to provide requirements for rating and certifying ethanol blends and requirements for labeling blends of more than 10 percent ethanol.
    But this rule exempts the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’s E15-approved label.
    This rule is for an additional label to be placed on the fuel pump “in response to the emergence of ethanol blends as a retail fuel and the likely increased availability of such blends.”
    With this rule, it only means gasoline with higher blends of ethanol will emerge into the marketplace.
    The AMA believes this proposal will cause even more confusion given the events surrounding the rollout of E15 into the marketplace. The AMA opposes E15 and any fuel containing more than ten percent ethanol because it can cause engine and fuel system failure to your motorcycle or all-terrain vehicle, and can void manufacturers’ warranties.
    According to the EPA, “[e]thanol impacts motor vehicles in two primary ways. First ... ethanol enleans the [air/fuel] ratio (increases the proportion of oxygen relative to hydrocarbons) which can lead to increased exhaust gas temperatures and potentially increase incremental deterioration of emission control hardware and performance over time, possibly causing catalyst failure. Second, ethanol can cause materials compatibility issues, which may lead to other component failures.”
    “In motorcycles and nonroad products [using E15 and higher ethanol blends], EPA raised engine-failure concerns from overheating.”
    The FTC is seeking public comments now on the rule proposal that calls for the additional label to identify higher ethanol blended fuels. You can tell the agency how this proposal will cause even more confusion, given the events surrounding the rollout of E15 into the marketplace.
    The AMA does not believe this new label will do what it is intended to do – keep users from misfueling with higher ethanol blended fuels. It simply does not provide clear direction. Another label on a blender pump that already has many labels will not be sufficient to avoid misfueling and could be easily overlooked.
    The proposed rule provides no direction on where on the pump the label should be located. Moreover, the FTC is proposing that the label be rounded to the nearest factor of 10. How will this accurately inform the consumer of the type of fuel called for by the vehicle owner’s manual? Will a fuel containing 11 percent to 14 percent ethanol be labeled as 10 percent ethanol? Is the FTC aware that manufacturers’ warranties are valid only for the use of fuel containing 10 percent ethanol by volume or less?
    Help protect 22 million motorcycles and all-terrain vehicles in America -- and the riders who depend on their safe operation -- from inadvertent misfueling. Tell the FTC you want safe access to fuel for motorcycles and ATVs!
    The loser in any inadvertent misfueling event is the motorcyclist and ATV rider. The AMA stands behind its members, and all riders, in calling for more thorough safeguards against misfueling.
    The deadline for comments is Jun. 2! Act today to ensure your voice is heard.
    For the latest information on the AMA’s efforts to protect your access to safe fuel, go to http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/...orthought.aspx.
    Now more than ever, it is crucial that you and your riding friends become members of the AMA to help protect our riding freedoms. More members mean more clout against the opponents of motorcycling and ATV riding. That support will help fight for your rights – on the road, trail, racetrack, and in the halls of government. If you are a motorcycle rider, join the AMA at AmericanMotorcyclist.com/membership/join.

    Steve

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    I guess the point is, Ethanol is causing damage.

    I have no access to non-blended fuel.

    I had a motorcycle that needed to have the 'in-tank' fuel line replaced due to the ethanol.

    What is happening to our PWCs especially if we fill the tanks at the end of the season as is usually prescribed?

    We can not simply 'get off and walk'.

    Steve

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    pure-gas.org will tell you where to find ethanol free gas.

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    Yea. 30 miles for me also..

    Maybe i will try. I hope the Listings are accurate.

    Steve

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    I take my skis and 6 5 gallon cans when I go. Lasts me a few weeks to a month.

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