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    2004 Virage Battery Help.. Urgent

    Dear Friends,

    The battery I have 2004 Virage is Yuasa YB16CL-B 19ah battery and 3 years old ,now it's not cranking well also no spark at plugs. Charged 3 times but its no good. I have jumped from car battery and it start at 1 sec I want to changed the battery ,but I dont want to buy Yuasa again, because I have used it max 100 hours and its very expensive in Turkiye the price is 167 USD expensive for me
    The problem is Yuasa has 240 EN value of first start, we have here Bosch M4 19 AH is 170 EN value and the price is 55 USD Will it work with the Bosch battery with 12V 19Ah 170 EN ???
    You will reccomend me many brands ,but I cant find all in Turkiye

    At last is it important the value of EN 240 ~ 170 will it work any battery which has 12V and 19AH


    This is urgent for me because I will order tommarow
    Many Thanks


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    Can you provide a web link for the Bosch EN battery chart?

    I am not familiar with EN battery sizes so I need to see the actual specifications for the batteries.

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    Dear Keith,

    Thank you

    The Bosch M4 battery chart link is http://rb-aa.bosch.com/aa-batterien/...ries_m6_m4.pdf

    The size is H:186mm W:82mm L:171mm

    Will it harm if I use the same size 22AH battery ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kory70 View Post
    ... The Bosch M4 battery chart link is http://rb-aa.bosch.com/aa-batterien/...ries_m6_m4.pdf

    The size is H:186mm W:82mm L:171mm

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    The chart you linked to does not show the physical dimension sizes of the listed batteries.

    Do you have a list that shows the EN numbers and the actual dimensions of each battery size?

    I do not understand the EN rating method, such as A(EN).
    Where is this explained?

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    The (EN) value is Cold Start Performance


    Yuasa YB16CL-B 12v 16Ah Jet Ski Battery.


    Specification
    Manufacturer: Yuasa
    Battery type number: YB16CL-B
    Battery type: Dry charged battery
    Filling kit included: YES
    Electrolyte required: 38% Sulphuric Acid, specific gravity 1.28kg/litre
    Electrolyte volume: 1.2 Litres
    Dimensions: 175mm x 100mm x 175mm
    Capacity rating: 19Ah
    Cold-start performance: 240EN
    Maximum charging rate: 2.0 Amp
    Weight (filled): 6.1Kg
    Vent position: Right side (With the terminals on the edge nearest to you)
    Terminal layout: Left: - Right: + (With the terminals on the edge nearest to you)

    BOSCH BATTERY
    12V High Power Battery
    Low-maintenance
    Long-life
    High safety reserve
    Reliable starting power
    Central degassing
    19Ah Capacity
    Dimensions (LxWxH) 186x82x171 mm
    Weight (incl. Acid): 5.6 kg
    Cold test current: 170EN

    http://www.racing-planet.co.uk/batte...l#.U5X0sihhsTA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kory70 View Post
    The (EN) value is Cold Start Performance


    Yuasa YB16CL-B 12v 16Ah Jet Ski Battery.


    Specification
    Manufacturer: Yuasa
    Battery type number: YB16CL-B
    Battery type: Dry charged battery
    Filling kit included: YES
    Electrolyte required: 38% Sulphuric Acid, specific gravity 1.28kg/litre
    Electrolyte volume: 1.2 Litres
    Dimensions: 175mm x 100mm x 175mm
    Capacity rating: 19Ah
    Cold-start performance: 240EN
    Maximum charging rate: 2.0 Amp
    Weight (filled): 6.1Kg
    Vent position: Right side (With the terminals on the edge nearest to you)
    Terminal layout: Left: - Right: + (With the terminals on the edge nearest to you)

    BOSCH BATTERY
    12V High Power Battery
    Low-maintenance
    Long-life
    High safety reserve
    Reliable starting power
    Central degassing
    19Ah Capacity
    Dimensions (LxWxH) 186x82x171 mm
    Weight (incl. Acid): 5.6 kg
    Cold test current: 170EN

    http://www.racing-planet.co.uk/batte...l#.U5X0sihhsTA
    The Yuasa YB16CL-B is a traditional liquid lead-acid battery.

    Is the Bosch info above for the M4 or the M6 version?
    My understanding is that the M4 is also a lead-acid battery but the M6 is an AGM battery. Is this correct?

    Volume of the Bosch is 85% of the Yuasa.
    Weight of the Bosch is 92% of the Yuasa.

    Cold Start EN value for the Bosch is only 71% of the Yuasa.

    My suggestion is to find the largest physical size Bosch M6 battery that will fit into the Polaris battery tray and use that. The more physical weight the better the stronger the starting power and the longer lasting.

    AGM battery is preferred over the older liquid lead-acid type.

    The battery charging system in the Polaris will work with any reasonable battery size that you can fit into the hull.

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    Yes, The Bosch M6 seems better I will buy the 12V 22ah will fit and 3ah will make no harm , I will write my opinions when I try
    Many Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kory70 View Post
    Yes, The Bosch M6 seems better I will buy the 12V 22ah will fit and 3ah will make no harm ,

    I will write my opinions when I try
    Many Thanks
    Please post the exact part number and size information after you have installed the battery.

    Other European Polaris owners may need to buy the same battery later.

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