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    Arrow If Polaris had a 2005 lineup article

    I came across this article online and thought it was interesting so I thought it would share. Just an over view article of what the 2005 Polaris model lineup would have been. Looked like a year of downsizing. One hull(msx) and 3 motor combos(800,1200, and weber 4 stroke). The Msx, Icon, and Element were going to be the only machines available in different combos.

    Also on a side note there used to be a website from a hulk member that had clay models of the future icon model in clay shape molds, and a lot of other cool Polaris photos and history. The website was www.triplesteam.com or something. Link won't work anymore.

    Anyways ys here is the article.

    http://www.powersportsbusiness.com/f...ee-new-models/


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    Article below by Jeff Hemmel

    Polaris Industries recently reported sales of personal watercraft increased another three percent during the second quarter of 2004, compared to the same period one year ago. Year-to-date numbers were more impressive, with a 16% increase over the comparable period of 2003.
    Polaris seized upon the opportunity of the company’s 50th Anniversary “Way Out Weekend” celebration in St. Paul, Minn., to unveil a trio of new-for-2005 PWC. Along with the new introductions, the company also revealed a few details about the remainder of a reduced, five-vehicle lineup the company plans to introduce later this summer, and a new naming system for the PWC line, displaying a trend toward singular names, rather than the numbers displayed in years past to indicate engine size.
    All five Polaris PWC models for 2005 are based on the successful MSX hull and deck design.
    The new flagship of the Polaris line will be the aggressively designed limited edition Matrix, a derivative of the previous MSX 140 that has been discontinued for 2005. At the Matrix’s core sits the same 1192 cc, two-stroke that powered the MSX 140, although the engine sports traditional carburetion as opposed to the 140’s previous fuel injection. Thanks to a few additional engine tweaks and a refined driveline, the boat’s claimed horsepower has now been bumped up significantly. Polaris says that the addition of triple pipes, triple carbs, a new compression ratio, V-Force reeds, and a billet aluminum head will all combine to give the Matrix 200 horsepower.
    Similar to a move Polaris made in past years with both the Octane and the Pro 785, the exhaust will be produced for the OEM by aftermarket firm Factory Pipe.
    Company officials claim top speeds will be just above the magic 65 mph target (possibly reaching up to 67 mph) with a 200-pound rider and a full tank of required 92 octane fuel.
    Color choices for the Matrix appear centered around a primarily black hull design with red and chrome accents.
    The remaining two models shown, the Icon and the Element, appear targeted at the opposite end of the buying spectrum. Again based on the MSX hull and deck design, both craft will utilize the same engine, an 800 cc, 100-hp two-stroke twin sporting a single carburetor. The Icon will be one step above the Element in the company food chain, sporting standard mirrors and reverse. Both items will be available as options for the Element.
    Given that the three models previewed were all two-strokes, it’s a safe bet that the MSX 150 and 110 will return in one form or another for 2005. That will give Polaris a reduced number of engine alternatives for the coming year, with just the 800, 1200, and the lone four-stroke. Of note is that any choice of fuel-injected two-stroke has apparently been eliminated from the line all together. Polaris had previously used the FICHT fuel injection system originally developed by OMC. With Bombardier’s purchase of that company several years back, Polaris had been using the system under license from one of its chief competitors. Industry insiders hint that Polaris may soon be going all four-stroke, or that the company may soon partner with Mercury Marine for a fuel-injection system. Polaris currently partners with Mercury on the LE2100 and EX2100 sport boat. psb

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    Yes that is one picture of the clay msx model, but there was another different machine. It looked like an evolution of the msx.

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    Ph2ocraft was the member with the website with all the photos, now that I look a little more. It's in his signature line but the link doesn't work. It was in that link where there was another picture of a different clay model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerminator View Post
    Ph2ocraft was the member with the website with all the photos, now that I look a little more. It's in his signature line but the link doesn't work. It was in that link where there was another picture of a different clay model.
    Send him a private message asking if the link(s) can be restored or the photos moved to a place that will be accessible to us long term.

    One of the unsolved problems of the Internet is longer term access to posted material. Broken links, deleted folders, canceled photo sharing services, revised URL paths, and such all result in visual information disappearing from the Internet.

    It is easy to lose access to this stuff and not know it is gone until you need to look for it again.

    Think about the resources you use online. Now think about how possible it is for the service itself or the posted/stored info to disappear someday. For some stuff, yes you can download and save it. For other online info, not so easy.

    Related note: This is one of the reasons I dislike when people use external photo sharing links in their posts. It might seem convenient for them at the time of posting, but often enough years (or even months) later those links no longer show the images. Photos uploaded to and saved with Greenhulk.net will at least remain accessible until Greenhulk itself shuts down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerminator View Post
    Article below by Jeff Hemmel

    Polaris Industries ... remainder of a reduced, five-vehicle lineup ...

    ... The Matrix’s core sits the same 1192 cc, two-stroke ... traditional carburetion ... addition of triple pipes, triple carbs...

    ...
    The remaining two models shown, the Icon and the Element ... will utilize the same engine, an 800 cc, 100-hp two-stroke twin sporting a single carburetor ...

    ... the three models previewed were all two-strokes ...

    ... it’s a safe bet ... the MSX 150 and 110 will return in one form or another for 2005.

    That will give Polaris a reduced number of engine alternatives for the coming year, with just the 800, 1200, and the lone four-stroke. Of note is that any choice of fuel-injected two-stroke has apparently been eliminated from the line all together. Polaris had previously used the FICHT fuel injection system ...
    This article clearly shows how badly off Polaris was regarding engine choices.

    If Ficht was to be discontinued they were stuck with old-school carburetors which clearly were not going to be sellable come 2006 with tighter emissions requirements. Dunno what the author is referring to regarding reduced engine variations, the two and three cylinder 2-strokes had been Polaris watercraft mainline since 1996.

    I do not see how the writer can claim the Weber engine was a 'safe bet' if it was NOT included in the announced info! Since 2004 was the very first year using Weber, how could the Weber NOT be included in the 2005 announcements? Well, if there was no (or not enough) profit in using that engine again, then no 2005 models will use it...

    The rest of the four stroke commentary seems to be speculation and guesswork. Obviously Polaris did not have a cost effective and market viable four stroke engine (other than the Weber) available for 2005 production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerminator View Post
    It was in that link where there was another picture of a different clay model.
    I remember that. It was the Icon or Element, two machines that were slated for introduction had Polaris moved forward with PWC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beerdart View Post
    Hey Dart, do you have the full sized image file of those? Pretty sure the one's i have were designed for the silver/black hull and the ones you have are for the white/red or white/white hulls.

    I'd like to get a copy of those.
    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kerminator View Post
    It was in that link where there was another picture of a different clay model.
    I remember that. It was the Icon or Element, two machines that were slated for introduction had Polaris moved forward with PWC.
    Built in cleat for the win. That would have been cool....

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