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    Ultra 250 owners - any regrets?

    Well, we've been living with them for several months now and wondering if others have some second thoughts as I do. As I see it:

    Pros:

    Great acceleration
    Perfect rough water boat


    Cons:

    Disappointing top speed and VERY impacted by air temps. RPMs off 200 since temps got into 80's, top speed down by 3mph (63/64 now).
    Fuel economy
    Fit/finish
    Oil in intercooler, intake hoses, site tube - with verified correct oil levels and I've cleaned it twice now
    Weird behavior at sudden off throttle (not the smart steering)
    Smart steering - I know, easy to disconnect but just a bad idea IMHO.


    If this thing gets any slower when temps get into the 90's, the 15F will be passing me at top speed. Seapoos seem to be much less affected by air temps than the the Kawi - RXT's that I was killing two months ago are starting to get very close.

    Not ready to bail just yet and realize there are some mods that can help (already have the wedge in) but it doesn't seem to me (just one man's opinion) that the ski isn't living up to the hype or even its potential. Maybe should have waited a year to get it all sorted out before I bought but that's my problem, not Kawasakis. Just wondering how others view their purchase after a few months of living with it.


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    Politely,

    In defense of the design,
    You bought a 1000lb ski, that is 11 foot long. It is a performance CRUISER, and is not made to be on par with the RXP and GPR for top speed. Top speed and gas mileage will suffer with the roots blower. Not much can be done about either.

    Just a word of warning in the future. Whenever you see ANY performance oriented watercraft with a 20 gallon tank, expect it to burn about 20gph in an hour.

    For me after a few months: Primarily a stock craft. No power adders.

    Positives:
    • Sudden off-throttle burst is dangerous.
    • Sharp lip under side rails puts blood blisters on my hands when moving it around.
    • Stellar rough water performance.
    • Excellent stock craft accelleration.
    • Tons of storage.
    • Tilt steering.
    • Boarding step.
    • Comfortable ergonomics.
    • Smooth, smooth ride.
    Negatives:
    • Paint fading.
    • Gauges are hard to read.
    • Hook in hull.
    • Gas Gauge and Boost Gauge is tiny.
    • Security key is designed wrong stock.
    • Engine is too quiet. TWO waterboxes??? Come on!
    • Too heavy.
    • No tie downs for my camping gear.
    • Chrome and "night rider" front end are goofy.
    • FX140 angular front end are goofy.
    • Air intake seems overly designed.

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    GAS GUZZLER burns nearly twice as much gas as my RXT but shines in the rough stuff..................

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    Don't expect any changes on the Ultra in 2008, it's second year of production. I doubt if they will even correct the hose pop off situation, much less any of the other complaints. Kawi has a track record of either NEVER changing any of their products during their production life cycle or making very miminal changes. It took Kawi 6 years to improve on the pump bearing problem that plauged the Ultra 150's. None ofthe stock handling problems were even addressed on it. They leave it up to the aftermarket companies to make needed corrections. Their top dog motorcycle, the ZX14 went into second year production with no changes or attempts to correct rider grips. I rest my case.


    Richard

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    My biggest regret is that I'm not out riding mine right now! I'm sitting at work on a beautiful day!

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    Top Speed Top Speed Top Speed Top Speed Top Speed

    The Ultra250X is my first ski. Had it about a month now.

    Why is everyone here is so concerned with top speed?

    It's a dream when you are WOT and can cut right through a large boat wake on the Ultra. My riding buddies on SeaDoos and Yamahas either have to throttle down to take the pounding of the wave, or risk being tossed from their ride. They get tossed alot.

    On the weekend, where there is 2 foot chop on the lake from all the other boats, no one can keep up with me, whether its at 60 mph or 65 mph and these guys have been riding for years whereas I am a newbie.

    As far as the gas mileage, if you want something economical, buy a HobieCat.

    And it has more horsepower than my Camry

    The 250x rules.
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    Mikelentini says it all!

    My only regret is that I don't have two of them!
    98% of my riding time is not at WOT. The real world of
    rivers, lakes, bays and oceans is something besides glass
    conditions. The Kawasaki boys have taken PWC's to a whole
    new level of performance. If top speed is all that matters
    to you then you shouldn't buy this ski and clog up Greenhulk's
    bandwidth with all the complaining!

    Now back to what it really needs......cruise control......a refrigerator
    up front......laptop with a broadband wireless card........

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    The only thing I really miss on this ski is some sort of trim system.

    The top speed doesn't bother me. Even though it guzzles gas more than my 450rwhp transam, I only get good gas mileage out of the car from my tuning skills.

    Give me a standalone fuel system for the ski and I'll be excited.

    Other than that, this is indeed my first "owned" ski, rode many others in the late 90's so I really can't complain at all about top speed.

    Probably the fastest one I rode before this was like a 1999 XP lol.

    I haven't had any of the other issues people are having with exhaust popping off or anything. I assume it all depends on the service guy at your dealer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomgtv View Post
    My only regret is that I don't have two of them!
    98% of my riding time is not at WOT. The real world of
    rivers, lakes, bays and oceans is something besides glass
    conditions. The Kawasaki boys have taken PWC's to a whole
    new level of performance. If top speed is all that matters
    to you then you shouldn't buy this ski and clog up Greenhulk's
    bandwidth with all the complaining!

    Now back to what it really needs......cruise control......a refrigerator
    up front......laptop with a broadband wireless card........

    I agree! I made myself a "cruise control" out of a triangular piece of aluminum that fits in the throttle lever. It is "infinitely" adjustable from idle to WFO. Oh, wait, I should be selling these!

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    Like to see a picture of that!

    Others have recommended putting a wedge between the lever
    and the handlebar where it actuates.

    I'd prefer something like what you're talking about. Can you disengage
    it pretty quick??

    My hand goes to sleep real easy.

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