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    Chine Walker
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    What's going on with the Ultra 250

    I was just taking a look at the Kawi Ultra 250 board and came across some nightmare threads regarding things from paint peeling, hoses falling off, plug wires failing and worst of all rpm's not reaching spec #'s. Worst of all, it seems the dealers are begining to deny the the warranty coverage...
    Did this craft turn out to be a royal POS??? I'm so glad I have the under powered reliable GPR.

    jp


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    Well I'm not sure the GPR has been perfect. I know a lot of people that have had problems on their GPRs with hoses coming off and dealers screwing them over.

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    1st year of the ultra 250, i think every ski has a kink or 2 to work out when they first come out. As far as the dealer not helping out, they should not be able to sell anything that they do not have the know how to fix.......................... imo.

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    Im sure next year they will have most of the kinks worked out... as far as dealerships they all suck! They are all great when it comes to selling them to you but when it comes to warranty work they are not as helpful (most of the time)

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    It makes no difference if the problems encountered are with a first year model, they won't be addressed in future years either. The hoses coming off the Kawasaki skis goes way back to the 12 and 15F...they never fixed it because the new Ultras have the same problem ! Word is the Kawi 250's are having pump bearing problems...that goes back to the '99 Ultra 150. It was solved in 2004 and now resurfaces with the new Ultras. Look at the SD clutches. They knew they were a bad design back in 2004 yet they still use them in 2007. Manufacturers keep on repeating the same mistakes and don't seem concerned about addressing the issues. Why?? It is beyond my comprehension !!
    Seems they like to aggravate their customers.

    Richard

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    because if they admitted one was a flaw, they would have to go back and fix THOUSANDS, and also cover all the damages.

    This way, they get the customer to help pay for their crappy designs.

    It's NOT JUST KAWI.

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    I have yet to see a real high performance ski (65+ mph) that did NOT have some minor or major issues that NEED to be addressed in order for the ski to be solid and reliable. GPRs - power valves (now gone, TG), pump tunnels, RXP/T - ceramic clutch washers, Kawi 250X - loose exhaust hoses. There are other occasional issues with all of them, but IMO, set aside $500 and a few hours on your first weekend to update/change/fix the issues with that particular ski. I think it is wrong, but I have learned to accept it and expect it. IMO the 250x has less serious issues than most other new skis. Going over it carefully and re-tightening all hoses is nothing and helps you get familiar with the ski. Just my .02

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    Lets see:
    2003 GP1300R (first line)

    rideplate brackets pulling through the ski
    dodgy power valve couplers.
    bad designed pump unit.
    Turf lifting.
    Intake grate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaceman View Post
    Lets see:
    2003 GP1300R (first line)

    rideplate brackets pulling through the ski
    dodgy power valve couplers.
    bad designed pump unit.
    Turf lifting.
    Intake grate.

    Well, that's actually a pretty good list of things that DID get addressed. I think they were actually talking about the things that NEVER get addressed.

    Rideplate brackets were a factory recall.
    Power valves are gone in 2005.
    2005 pump replaced earlier pumps.
    Hydroturf is good stuff, but will always lift.
    Nothing wrong with stock intake grate on a stock ski.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrotoys View Post
    Well, that's actually a pretty good list of things that DID get addressed. I think they were actually talking about the things that NEVER get addressed.

    Rideplate brackets were a factory recall.
    Power valves are gone in 2005.
    2005 pump replaced earlier pumps.
    Hydroturf is good stuff, but will always lift.
    Nothing wrong with stock intake grate on a stock ski.
    good point, it doesnt matter what your issues have been as long as you step up and fix / change them I have never had a real "issue" with my gpr... my ultra 150 was a diffrient story!

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