View Poll Results: Polaris going forward, prefer Injected 2-stroke, 4-stroke, or carbs

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  • Fuel injected 4-stroke (MSX)

    7 38.89%
  • Fuel Injected 2-stroke (Genesis, Virage, MSX 140)

    5 27.78%
  • Stick with carb models

    7 38.89%
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    Polaris Fuel injected - 4-stroke vs. 2-stroke?

    If you had to choose between a Polaris Fitch 2-stroke vs. a Weber/Bosch 4-stroke, which would be the more intelligent choice?
    I am thinking maintenance, longevity, servicing costs and hassles, vs. purchase cost and depreciation (although they all seem to depreciate rather quickly).


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    I'd take the 2004 fuel injected 2 stroke over the Weber engine any day.
    The repair costs in the long run 2 stroke versus 4 stroke is MUCH less on the 2 stroke. It seems when the Weber goes down, it's rather costly.
    Control units, sensors, oil contamination to the system, turbos, costly when the craft is in a rollover (yes, plenty of people roll them) etc.

    You will probably have better luck with Weber parts further in the future than the Ficht system. Some will argue that point as the system is still used in Johnson products and all it takes is a good marine repair facility to handle any fuel related issues......try to find that shop though.....

    I could go on but I'm biased towards the old 2 stroke stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ocraft View Post
    ...oil contamination to the system...
    Very true...until the dealers figured out that the 'MAX' line on the dip stick should have been worded 'FULL-HOT'! I keep my oil level mid way (.5 below MAX) on a cold engine, and everything goes well.

    And I predicted the 2 stroke bias...like going to a Corvette chat room, and asking how many would buy the newest Mustang versus a Vette!

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    LOL Yeppers, guilty as charged. I've been thinking I'd go with the carbureted version as well, then there would be NO issues for a long time to come.
    Somebody change my vote please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ocraft View Post
    Somebody change my vote please.
    Hey...you're the moderator, what's to stop you???

    BUT...if you do, then I demand three more votes coming....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky_Road View Post
    Hey...you're the moderator, what's to stop you???
    That would be cheating.

    BUT...if you do, then I demand three more votes coming....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ocraft View Post
    I'd take the 2004 fuel injected 2 stroke over the Weber engine any day...
    Hmmm, only eight votes in the poll, and evenly split between carb and injected. I wonder how many Green Hulk folks actually have experience with the non-carb models.

    Looking forward, are the Fitch injected 2-strokes actually going to be maintainable and fixable by normally mechanically inclined folks, as those motors wear and age?

    When they were new, it appears the Fitch motors were not well understood, and viewed as troublesome to fix. Has that changed?
    Is there something special about the 2004 Fitch, vs. the previous years?


    And with the Weber powered boats, are they perceived as reliable overall, but expensive to fix when something does go wrong?

    Does a roll-over really cause real problems with a Weber motor? Every time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by K447 View Post
    Hmmm, only eight votes in the poll, and evenly split between carb and injected. I wonder how many Green Hulk folks actually have experience with the non-carb models.
    Not really! The fuel injected are being chosen almost 2 to 1 over the carbed (6 total votes for injected, vs 4 total for carbs).

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    I had a 2 stroke Kawi before I bought my MSX 150. I really like the smoke-free 4 stroke. More power and speed on less, much less fuel is also very nice. My next PWC will also probably be a 4 stroke.

    However, My MSX 150 has been back to Atlantic Powersports at least once each year since I bought it at the end of 04. Sure glad Jay talked me into buying the extended maintenance contract.

    On the other hand, it won't be back to Atlantic next year, though. Polaris won't pay their bills so Atlantic won't service Polaris watercraft anymore. Looking at the way Polaris runs their business, some day MBA students are going to use them as a case study for how to drive customers away.

    Maybe another Kawi. Never had to do anything to my old one and friends who also had a Kawi never had problems, either. Oh well. At least my Sea Ray is bullet-proof or we'd never get on the water!

    Best regards,
    Frank C

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    Quote Originally Posted by FC3 View Post
    I had a 2 stroke Kawi before I bought my MSX 150. I really like the smoke-free 4 stroke. More power and speed on less, much less fuel is also very nice. My next PWC will also probably be a 4 stroke.

    However, My MSX 150 has been back to Atlantic Powersports at least once each year since I bought it at the end of 04. Sure glad Jay talked me into buying the extended maintenance contract.

    On the other hand, it won't be back to Atlantic next year, though. Polaris won't pay their bills so Atlantic won't service Polaris watercraft anymore. Looking at the way Polaris runs their business, some day MBA students are going to use them as a case study for how to drive customers away.

    Maybe another Kawi. Never had to do anything to my old one and friends who also had a Kawi never had problems, either. Oh well. At least my Sea Ray is bullet-proof or we'd never get on the water!

    Best regards,
    Frank C
    Perhaps I should have put another category in the poll;
    4-stroke, but not Polaris.

    What kinds of trouble have you had with your MSX 150?

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