Thread: Kawi and the GIO...again
03-07-2008, 12:20 AM #1
Kawi and the GIO...again
Anyone getting anywhere with kawasaki on paying for a fix for the GIO? on the 07's that is. Anyone get them to buy the vetilator kit or get new engine parts or new engine. hours are adding up and even tho im changing oil every 20 or 15 hours i feel like this motor isnt going to last as long as it should. I'm about to send a letter to kawi corp in California explaining the situation and possible fixes. We'll see.
03-07-2008, 03:14 AM #2
I havent heard anything yet as well...
Not that i want it to happen... but well i have to five year warranty so if blows and they have to give me a new ski that would be great....
I just wish they would pay for the fix and acknowledge the problem...
03-07-2008, 08:00 AM #3
03-07-2008, 08:45 AM #4
03-07-2008, 09:53 AM #5
its best to just bite the bullet and get the vent kit. Easier than dealing with the alternatives. Plus, they will never admit it anyways.
Did seadoo ever admit the supercharger washer problems? Nope. But in 08, 4 years later, they decided to install metal washers and not really say anything about it. At least kawi did something about it by fixing it for 08.
These are the perils of buying first year skis I guess. I guess next we will see if the new yammi's produce any headaches.
03-07-2008, 10:20 AM #6
Have not had any issues with gas in the oil yet . Does it happen to all 07 250's
03-07-2008, 11:29 AM #7
Guys, prior to installing R&D's vent system, I was changing my oil after every 60 mile WOT ride... yes, after every ride. I purchased synthetic mix for 4.00 per quart of oil - four quarts of oil out - and a little less than four quarts of new oil back in. 4x4=$16.00 per change x four times a month = 64.00 a month. Heavy operating expenses on this craft.
Now, keep in mind that I think I had a pretty significant GIO problem - there was always a heavy fuel smell in my oil after every WOT 60 mile ride. The thought of fuel in there makes me very uncomfortable. Regardless, I would suggest changing the oil more frequently than 20 - 25 hours. If nothing else, make sure you are checking the oil level and extracting out excess oil (fuel) that may be in your crankcase
BTW - I did the Mark Hahn - WOT for 4 and a half hours - we had removed all fuel from the vent system catch can prior to the race and put new Full-Syn oil in. AFTER the race we removed four ounces of fuel from the R&D catch can....
Last edited by Socaloffshore; 03-07-2008 at 11:35 AM.
03-07-2008, 11:41 AM #8
03-07-2008, 02:54 PM #9
little bit but nothing compared to what used to flow through
03-07-2008, 04:24 PM #10
ya. im using synthetic oil thats 8 bucks a quart. so theres a big expenditure. i dont ride as hard as a lot of you but still try to do it every 15 hours or so. i sent in a letter; just curious if they will even respond. otherwise i dont know if its going to be safer for me to buy the ventilation kit or let the engine eventually detonate. im at 240 hours and the engine feels like its faster than ever. but thats a lof of hours.
heres what i sent kawi. is it stupid?
March 6, 2008
I purchased a 2007 Jet Ski ultra 250x new from the dealer. I have owned it for about 8 months. After about 20 hours on the machine both the dealer and I noticed that gas was mixing with the engine oil. As you know this is very detrimental to an engine. Due to this problem I have been changing my oil every 15-20 hours. I am under warranty and will most likely purchase the four year extended warranty especially due to this Gas in oil problem. The dealer and Kawasaki recommend changing the oil every 50 hours or every season. I feel that if the oil was changed according to the normal service schedule the engine will have a very high risk of detonation.
There are alternatives to my engine failing. There is an aftermarket product which relieves crankcase pressure which has been shown to fix the gas in oil problem as noted by the greenhulk PWC online forum. http://greenhulk.net/forums/ . The produce is called
The ULTRA 250X CRANKCASE VENTILATION & VAPOR SEPARATOR KIT (389.99 by R & D). I feel your company needs to fix this problem. Whether it is with the ventilation kit or possibly new pistons and rings I don’t care. I can do what the book says and change the oil after 50 hours of riding but I feel that would be bad news for both Kawasaki and me when the engine detonates under warranty. My dealer is aware of the problem and has contacted Kawasaki about it once and will call again if needed. I want to resolve the issue without Kawasaki having to replace the whole powertrain. Please respond by email or phone. Thank You.
3150 xxxxxxxx #302
Naples, Florida 34105
2007 Kawasaki Ultra 250x VIN # kaw3xxxxxxxx
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