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    Non-Synthetic Oil...Where?

    I have been reading all over this forum and it seems that the consensus for break-in is to run 32:1 premix with a non-synthetic oil product. I have looked all over this forum and all over Google and cannot find a non-synthetic 2-cycle oil out there on the market.

    Am I missing something or can someone make some recommendations on what I should use for break-in?


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    Just to be clear; Non-synthetic 2-stroke oil will simply not mention synthetic on the label. It will not say "non-synthetic" anywhere.

    Search for TCW3 rated oils. Generally, the less expensive oils will be non-synthetic.

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    Is there a big difference between running non-synthetic and synthetic after break-in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kepneriphone View Post
    Is there a big difference between running non-synthetic and synthetic after break-in?
    The synthetic will burn cleaner than a petroleum oil and will not load up through the 5 mph zone as much.

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    Super-Tech from Wal-mart! $8 a gallon, I run it in all my 2-strokes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibreakstuff View Post
    Super-Tech from Wal-mart!
    $8 a gallon, I run it in all my 2-strokes.
    Is that a full synthetic?
    Is Super-Tech 2-stroke oil rated as TC-W3, or does it also have additional ratings, like ISO-EGD?
    Last edited by K447; 03-31-2008 at 09:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibreakstuff View Post
    Super-Tech from Wal-mart! $8 a gallon, I run it in all my 2-strokes.
    And how many hours on the $8 @ gal will you get?

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    west marine will have it if 1 is near u? and I now run their syn in all my stuff! 21 a gal

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    Quote Originally Posted by pirate33 View Post
    And how many hours on the $8 @ gal will you get?
    I have been using $10/gal semi-syn oil for 3 years now...no engine failures in my snomobiles (much higher specific output than a ski) and watercraft. Motor is always nice and oily when pulled down, and there is little to no carbon on the ring lands. My Amsoil buddies give me crap about it, so I told them when my motor fails due to poor lubrication, I'll switch to Dominator. So far, so good. ISO EGD is the toughest standard for 2 stroke oil to date...if it passes this test, the oil should be good to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K447 View Post
    Is that a full synthetic?
    Is Super-Tech 2-stroke oil rated as TC-W3, or does it also have additional ratings, like ISO-EGD?
    It's rated tx-w3 for sure, not sure about the rest. I can check when I get home and take a look. TC-W3 will cut it for most Polaris PWCs anyways.

    Quote Originally Posted by pirate33 View Post
    And how many hours on the $8 @ gal will you get?
    Over all the years on all my sleds and PWCs, 1000's. Never had a bearing pop or cylinder wall score due to lack of lube.

    Quote Originally Posted by PolarisNut View Post
    I have been using $10/gal semi-syn oil for 3 years now...no engine failures in my snomobiles (much higher specific output than a ski) and watercraft. Motor is always nice and oily when pulled down, and there is little to no carbon on the ring lands. My Amsoil buddies give me crap about it, so I told them when my motor fails due to poor lubrication, I'll switch to Dominator. So far, so good. ISO EGD is the toughest standard for 2 stroke oil to date...if it passes this test, the oil should be good to go.
    Pennzoil right? I buy it when it's on sale.

    I agree with everything you said above. Exhaust valves are just fine, I clean them constantly anyways. I also said what you did - when I have a failure due to lack of lube I'll switch. Hasn't happened yet. I did lose one line of an oil pump this season though (didn't know that was possible)

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