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    polaris and other skiis

    I have een thinking about getting another ski, what are some good ones(including all brands) I want a two seat that is fast and maneurvable, not a boat. I like the hull size of the two seat 650 750 and 780 sl. Are the 1050 and 1200 pro similar. What other skiis are that size and fast and manueverable.


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    Do you want fuel injection?
    What price range?
    How many cc's?
    2 or 3 cyl
    etc.

    The Ultra Kawi 150
    The Yami GP series

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    785 Pro, never ridin one but hear it is love at first ride. 1200 Pro, I do have and have rode and it is a blast..very fast in my opinion.

    I have a 650 with 750 motor, fun to ride, but not all that fast compared to the other two suggestions. Tons of parts available for the 650, 750's though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parker Creighton View Post
    I have been thinking about getting another ski, what are some good ones(including all brands) I want a two seat that is fast and maneurvable, not a boat.
    I like the hull size of the two seat 650 750 and 780 sl. Are the 1050 and 1200 pro similar?
    What other skiis are that size and fast and maneuverable?
    How fast, how maneuverable?

    The 785 Pro models are apparently VERY quick, and very aggressive turning, if you can hang on to it. 1997 hulls are the lightest.

    All the Polaris SL models have essentially the same 2 seater hull underneath, with some tweaks over the years. The Pro785 hull are more aggressive, and the shortest hulls are the Hurricanes (1996-1997).

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    well i am not sure, are the 1050 and 1200 pro 4stroke or two? How do they compare with the sl 780. or sl900. faster always seems better. I wouldnt be looking to spend too much as I am only 18, but i was just curious what was out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parker Creighton View Post
    well i am not sure, are the 1050 and 1200 pro 4stroke or two?
    How do they compare with the SL 780. or SL 900? faster always seems better.

    I wouldnt be looking to spend too much as I am only 18, but i was just curious what was out there.
    The only four stroke Polaris PWC are the MSX 110, and MSX 150 (same hull, same engine, two different power levels). Weber brand German designed turbo-charged 2 cylinder, four stroke engines.

    Same Weber engines also used in some Polaris snowmobiles, and some other companies products, including the Hydrospace.

    All other Polaris PWC are 2-stroke, including the MSX 140.

    The fuel injected 2-stroke models use Ficht (pronounced 'fict') RAM injection, which was an Evinrude technology. When Bombardier bought Evinrude, that meant Polaris was now buying engine parts from Sea-Doo!

    Both carburetor and Ficht fuel injected models were sold 1999-2004.

    Engine sizes 650, 750, 780, and 785 were all triple cylinder Fuji 2-stroke engines.

    The other sizes are all Polaris 'domestic' 2-stroke designs, two or three cylinders, and share many parts. 700, 900, 1050, 1200 (1165), and 1200 (MSX 1192). The MSX 1200 engines were an evolution of the domestic.

    Many folks on here like the Fuji engined Polaris models (1992-1998 ), while others like the domestic engines (1996-2004). The triple piped, exhaust valved PRO785 Fuji engine is rated 140HP, but in the light PRO hull, it screams and flies. 1200 PRO used the domestic 1200 engine, without triple pipes, but the PRO style hull.

    The two cylinder domestics tend to have very good fuel economy and good power, while the three cylinder domestics are quite strong, up to 140HP stock, more with modifications. Top power would be the triple piped MSX 140 model, called the Matrix 200 (as in 200HP).

    The X versions (SLX, SLTX, X-45) generally came with upgraded engine and jet pump, but the same hull as the non-X model.

    There is an XLS chart of all the Polaris PWC models, perhaps in the Tech section.
    Last edited by K447; 05-21-2008 at 11:28 PM.

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    So what is faster the 1200 pro or the pro 785? I would think the 1200. the 1200 is not fuel injected correct?

    What other brands compete with the pro 785 in size and power an handling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parker Creighton View Post
    So what is faster the 1200 pro or the pro 785? I would think the 1200.
    the 1200 is not fuel injected correct?

    What other brands compete with the pro 785 in size and power an handling?
    I have never ridden either Pro, but from reading on here, a properly running Pro 785 accelerates harder, and has about the same top speed as the 1200 Pro (both have carbs).

    The Pro models were all about course racing, buoy to buoy strong acceleration and tight cornering, not all out top speed (not that they are slow).

    The top speed game is endless. Whatever speed your PWC can do, somewhere out there will be a faster one.

    The top end modified PWC are now pushing 100mph, and 70-80mph is common enough among the modestly modified machines (mostly 4-stroke supercharged).

    On many waters, you just cannot use all that speed for more than a few moments at a time. If the water is not smooth enough, you might not be able to use all the power.

    Do you need to have the fastest boat on the water? Costs money.

    If you lakes are medium sized or smaller, tight turning and acceleration may be more fun than flying across the water for 20 seconds at a time.

    Many seem to like the Yamaha GP1200R and GP1300R models, especially the way the hull handles.

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    K 447 is right on the Pro's. From what I have learned bottom end with the valves and pipes the 785 takes the hole shot, up to speed the 785 and 1200 are pretty dead even.

    There have been some video posts on some 785's in action and you can witness the bottom end acceleration and hear the pipes roar on the 785...pretty impressive. Never riden a 785 I am not sure I have enough health or life insurance LOL

    My 1200 however is plenty fast for me, I'd like to keep my arms in their sockets .

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    If you're looking at polaris, my bro has his SL900 he'll sell for $1800 firm. He just got a new hydroturf seat cover he's gonna put on it.
    Now similar speed, but in my opinion more playful is the 96xp. You could go with a SL750/SL780, but for the price my brothers will be hard to beat pricewise, plus it has a few goodies on it that you won't get on the others. But I would vote 96XP, but you'd have to spend around $2300 on up for a decent one. Speedwise these are similar
    1.94XP, 95XP, 96spx,94 SL750,95 SL750,SL780, $1500-$2000

    1.96XP and SL900 $1800 to around $2500.
    Ride with me and my brother soon and you can ride his 900, no pressure buying it. Hell he's debating on keeping it anyways.

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