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    2000 GP1200R vs 2008 GP1300R Hole Shot

    I currently have a 2000 GP1200R and its a great ski as far as playing around and handling, however my only gripe about it is the hole shot from a dead stop or from comming out of a donut is less than stellar.

    I really like the fact its a 2 seater and is relatively light compared to everything else on the market. Would the new fuel injected GP1300R be much if any better out of the hole than the GP1200R? I have it narowed down to a new GP or RXP 215 sea doo because I want to stick with 2 seaters for the fun factor of jumping, spinning, and overall ability to throw the ski around. I dont need to tow anything or want to be able to haul 3 people around.

    Im gonna keep the 1200R since the trade isnt so great and it would be nice to have two skis.


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    The difference is night and day.... The 1300r platform from any year 03-08 is a much more responsive ski stock vs stock..

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    The 1300R hole shot is not that much better than the 1200R.
    If you want a stock ski with a great hole shot, the RXP is the way to go.
    You can take your 1200R and with much less than $1000 in mods, you can get real close to a stock RXP out of the hole and you may be able to beat him on top.
    It is all about the set up, how much money you want to spend, and what kind of riding you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KirkF350 View Post
    The 1300R hole shot is not that much better than the 1200R.
    If you want a stock ski with a great hole shot, the RXP is the way to go.
    You can take your 1200R and with much less than $1000 in mods, you can get real close to a stock RXP out of the hole and you may be able to beat him on top.
    It is all about the set up, how much money you want to spend, and what kind of riding you like.
    I certainly would not be opposed to modifying the GP1200R. I am pretty mechanically inclined and am pretty confident I could handle most of the install, but I dont want to get too far into tearing it down.

    I am open to any suggestions on performance modifications, I have read about the first 10 pages of this section and the stickied sections as well. Its pretty overwelming for a novice to modifying PWCs. Extra top speed would be nice but its a far second to acceleration for me. The GP currently has the cat removed with a d plate, has a new stainless impeller (specs unknown).

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    install ppk and a 1200 intake grate

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    Is the PPK you mentioned the Riva pump seal kit?

    So purchasing the following will greatly help the hole shot?

    Riva GPR Pump Seal Kit - RY2520 - $69.95

    RIVA GP1200R Top-Loader Intake Grate - RY22420 - $129.95


    What about adding the Riva ride plate? I have read there are some issues with them but would there be any issues with the relatively stock GP.

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    you can also check Jim from Jim's performance for a FF plate and Leo for a holshot kit

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    Quote Originally Posted by 04DarkShadowGT View Post
    Is the PPK you mentioned the Riva pump seal kit?

    So purchasing the following will greatly help the hole shot?

    Riva GPR Pump Seal Kit - RY2520 - $69.95

    RIVA GP1200R Top-Loader Intake Grate - RY22420 - $129.95


    What about adding the Riva ride plate? I have read there are some issues with them but would there be any issues with the relatively stock GP.
    yes they will help the hole shot allot.....and the plate just get a jims plate ....for a extra 3 to 4 mph on top

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    Quote Originally Posted by 04DarkShadowGT View Post
    I certainly would not be opposed to modifying the GP1200R. I am pretty mechanically inclined and am pretty confident I could handle most of the install, but I dont want to get too far into tearing it down.

    I am open to any suggestions on performance modifications, I have read about the first 10 pages of this section and the stickied sections as well. Its pretty overwelming for a novice to modifying PWCs. Extra top speed would be nice but its a far second to acceleration for me. The GP currently has the cat removed with a d plate, has a new stainless impeller (specs unknown).
    I too am all about the bottom end. You can put some mods on your 1200 and make it run 73-74 all day long and it will get out of the hole about as quick as a 1300. With this 1200, you can pass stock RXPs all day long and even a few slightly modded RXPS. I have not ran an X on my 1200 but I can give them a fit on the 1300; not the hole shot though.

    In the summer heat, I have my 1200R running 72 on a full tank of gas with a 1200 grate and it runs neck and neck with my 1300R up to about 68-70. From there, the 1300 starts to pull away. On 2 bars of fuel, no buzzer, my 1300R runs 77.1 on a 1200 grate and 77.9 on the 800 grate. Both skis have no porting.
    Put some time and money in that 1200 and enjoy it for a while. When it comes time to rebuild, go 1300 or even 1390. You will still spend much less this route than buying an RXP; the only real draw back that I see is fuel consumption.

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    Thanks guys, I ordered teh above parts. Ill see how it goes, hopefully I will be impressed. I rode a buddies RXP and the GPR definatly rides smoother and feels more stable at full speed it just doesnt have the oomph and hopefully this will help that.

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