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    Did your engine eat ceramic clutch washers?

    If it did this is what you could be faced with.

    I pulled my engine this morning after eating another clutch over the weekend. Both oil pumps are trashed and need to be replaced.




    This is what I found in the front oil scavenger pump screen.


    This is the front scavenger pump in the housing.


    Did the screen do a good job of protecting the oil pump? NO it's trashed!!!



    Here is the PTO housing removed and the rear screen and rear oil pump.



    Here is the trashed rear oil pump.


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    What a nightmare - sorry to hear about the downtime and obvious other aches.

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    I would like to buy a RXP but all these clutch failures scare me. Could you possibly use titanium washers instead of ceramic? I found a company that makes custom sizes.
    http://www.unitedtitanium.com/washers/index.html

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    Stock RXP clutches are fine. When they do go out they just slip and don't normally drop into the engine.

    We are having problems with the heavy duty clutches as we once believed that 12 ft. lbs. of slipping moment was correct. After so many failures we are quickly learning that 12 ft. lbs. is too much.

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    Jerry you wrench on that thing more than I do on my 2 smokes....

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    yea i know, but its so much fun

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    If the oil pumps look that bad,I don't have to tell you to flip it over and check the mains and rod bearings.........and the camshaft and cylinder head..........

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    Well, hopefully the oil filter did it's job and protected the rest of the engine. crossing fingers!!!

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    Jerry are the pumps really trashed? Are would a dealer leave that alone if he found it? Just for my knowledge is all. Is it normal to check this? And do dealers check it? Maybe a smaller screen?

    Can I offer anything? If I can help with a part needed are anything let me know. You do a bunch for me in the knowledge department and I wouldn't mind at all if you needed anything.

    Let me Know, Austin

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    Austin, thanks so much for your offer. I'm fortunate enough to have a dealer that will warranty the parts for me.

    I think a dealer should check the pumps after eating a ceramic clutch disk as its quite apparent the screens don't do enough to protect the pumps.

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