10-01-2008, 02:51 PM #1
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- Sep 2007
- Lexington, Ky
Braking system. 09 Doo's have it, lets make something up for our ski's!
Just some thoughts, it just popped in my head.
Ive seen the braking system on the new 09 SeaDoo's, it appears to use a modified reverse bucket system, and is obviously designed for this. We also have seen the trim tab looking brake kits, and heard of people pulling the reverse handle at speed.
But this would be a fantastic safety addition to any ski, We've all at least once had to lean over the front in a hastened fashion to keep from bumping a friends boat, or the dock, or whatever.. Lets think up a braking system!
1) Reverse thrust - It's the way SeaDoo did it, so why not lets use what we already have on the ski. Obviously some use of the reverse bucket connected to a brake lever is the place to start.
2) For the brake control lever system this Riva part is perfect, and is not absurdly expensive for what it is (Riva? I know, I'm shocked too) nor is it very difficult to copy if someone already has one, and could take some closeups .
We should be able to connect this to the reverse bucket linkage, and be able to lower it at a predefined position without affecting the normal operation of the forward/reverse/neutral lever (I think, need to look into this a little more, but I'm fairly sure).
Or maybe convert the reverse bucket to be handle level operated is the way to go? I think I would much prefer to be able to squeeze a lever and shift into reverse/brake than use the big lever.
Ideally some way to do this without burying the nose underwater.
10-01-2008, 03:52 PM #2
imo, i think using the reverse bucket as a "brake" would NOT hold
up very long.. Just ask me how i know...
I go thru at least 2 reverse buckets per summer...
I like to do "submarines" alot.. You just use the reverse at a
moderate speed (maybe 15 or so, just on plane) then you let off
throttle , pull into reverse, let the nose dive, then go back to
foward and give it some throttle..
Pretty damn fun, but it breaks the grates ALOT !!!
I think if you used the reverse at any decent speed, you would
nose dive big time and bust the grate (maybe the cable and handle too)
more times than not..
just my opinion
10-01-2008, 04:20 PM #3
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- Jul 2006
I think a aluminum reverse bucket would be the chit.. I've used my "Brakes" many times with no ill effects but I could see if you threw it into reverse at speed how that would give you some trouble (If your doing this don't ever as me to ride my ski cuz you must be missing a couple screws)
Just for the purposes of slowing down when needed, I think a stronger bucket would make all the difference in the bucket making it through hard stops.
10-01-2008, 04:37 PM #4
I'd love to find an aluminum reverse bucket!!!
I'm sure i'd find the next weakest link though.
Doing the submarines is addictive.. My electric bilge
pump works overtime some days!!!
The buckets crack and break usually at the pivot points on
each side of the nozzle ( the 13 mm headed bolts)
Sometimes the metal bar even bends... Just replaced 1 today.
10-01-2008, 05:20 PM #5
yeah, just use the reverse bucket...Our skis need a sound effect of tires squeeling, when the "brake" is used.
10-01-2008, 06:08 PM #6
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- May 2008
- Lake Havasu
10-01-2008, 06:25 PM #7
10-01-2008, 07:28 PM #8
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- Nov 2007
- Odessa, TX
Patience Grasshoppas by next May the aluminum reverse bucket from the iS's will be readily available through the dealer network. And you know they will bolt up to the existing pump because BRP is cheap
10-01-2008, 08:35 PM #9
A safe distance from other PWC's is what you should be doing (so a brake is not required.)I keep (and all should)
......and As an extra safety device, i see a brake as nothing more than a bandaid to a New inexperience rider, its really no different than a "off turn steering" which most manufactures try to install and use but these are just like the "brake systems you are talking about.
I vote for rider training, and less parts, But that may not help your post here.
simply put: If you need a brake you are following too close.
Keep in mind I'm all for safety but remember performance /experience has some compromises.
10-01-2008, 10:35 PM #10
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- Jan 2006
- Rydal, Georgia U S A
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