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    You just lost 5,000 nautical miles of PWC access in California

    Don't think because its California you are safe, there are 13 NOAA sanctuaries, once precdent can be adopted in others. It is really time to get organized folks, join the AWA. There should be more AWA members than SR members! Come on! Silence is death. Action is life.


    PWC's to be banned in Monterey Bay Sanctuary Feb-09, thanks Surfrider!
    If you want to read up on this, there are a lot of posts on towsurfersjournal....

    http://www.towsurfingjournal.com/for...splay.php?f=13

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    Frank,

    You were too kind.

    This is not a victory, it is a sham. So when is Surfrider going to address the nuclear dump zones in our Sanctuary waters? A convenient truth often ignored because of what? This is something that should be demanded from your organization and its board of directors in good faith of water quality and safety. The founding fathers of Surfrider would never stand for this kind of organizational behavior.

    Nice to see Surfrider has yet again been duped into NOAA 'personalized' attack against a specific recreational activity that has absolutely nothing to do with management of sanctuary resources! It's too bad Surfrider didn't look at both sides of the issue without prejudice and bias.

    I can't wait to be an expert witness on the first lawsuit filed in respect to this any damages incurred by funneling user activity into one zone of operation, won't take long for that to happen in California, the risks are too high and safety obviously is not taken into account. Citizen's finances that could be spent on making people's lives better and enhancing our enjoyment and stewardship of our Pacific Ocean and Mother Earth.

    Too bad Surfrider didn't study current boating laws and regulations and support our taxpayers in good stewardship and honor in endorsing the boating officers of California who do care about public safety and recreation, regardless of the activity chosen. They are the real deal here, on the frontline with perspective and dedication in service to others, something Surfrider membership could learn from.

    It would be nice if Surfrider and NOAA would finally provide their scientific data that has never been presented to the 'stakeholders'. It would also be nice to see the financial report on how much this process from inception to date and into the future management of this review and enforcement will cost taxpayers? How many millions of dollars have been spent from the beginning and in perpetuity to regulate a recreational boating activity, rather than focus on real world environmental concerns, instead of operator behavior of a vessel. And how many PWC's would this include verus surfers?

    Perhaps it is time to lobby an ATLAS study against paddle in surfing in sanctuary waters and elsewhere, you never know how much impact is damaging resources from surfboard wax, parking lots, foot trails, urination and surfboard construction materials. Perhaps we could solicit a scientific study from NOAA to research any probability. Claiming one precedent as a victory can affect many other users groups, we are not protected from the water grab that is taking the entire western coastline of the United States. I fear for the future of my children and their access rights to recreational pursuits, if this is a victory, I am ashamed of the weakness in America.

    What a disgrace to justice and the right to due process, it is a direct violation of our Constitutional 3rd Amendment. This is not a victory, it is a shameless water grab using environmental concerns as an excuse.

    Shawn Alladio
    K38 Water Safety
    www.TheLivesYouSave.com


    In a message dated 11/17/2008 12:11:40 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
    Great job Alexis,
    You accomplished nothing and wasted a lot of time and effort not to mention tax payer dollars over a personal vendetta. Pat yourself on the back! Maybe when you guys are done congratulating yourselves you can address some real environmental issues like the pollution being poured into the ocean all along San Mateo County Coastline no wait the entire California Coastline. And along with your self proclaimed victory you have invited every jet ski user both tow surfer and recreational user to Mavericks and it's surrounding area. That was well thought out. I'm sure the paddle contingent is going to love SURFRIDER for that. Great job. When's the party?


    Frank Quirarte


    P.S. I have a new slogan for your organization, Surfrider - pitting surfers against surfers! Sheesh








    Subject: Surfrider Celebrates Increased Protection For Monterey Bay Sanctuary


    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    CONTACT:
    Alexis Henry
    Surfrider Foundation
    Phone (949) 732-6413 / Fax (949) 492-8142
    Email: [email protected]



    SURFRIDER CELEBRATES INCREASED PROTECTION FOR MONTEREY BAY SANCTUARY


    New Regulations Close Loophole and Establish Seasonal Fifth Zone
    For Personal Watercraft Use


    San Clemente, CA (November 17, 200 – After nearly a decade of work, the Surfrider Foundation is celebrating a twofold success that balances resource protection with recreational access in the Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary (MBNMS).

    Through a joint management plan review process in which many stakeholders participated, the Surfrider Foundation and its chapters worked with the Sanctuary officials and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) to close a loophole in the laws governing usage of motorized personal watercraft (MPWC) in the Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary. The original restrictions were established in 1992 and designed to provide enhanced resource protection for marine mammal and seabird concentrations, kelp forests, river mouths, estuaries, lagoons and all near shore areas that numerous studies have shows to be highly vulnerable to disturbance and injury from personal watercraft. However changes in watercraft technology and design resulted in a definition loophole that allowed newer three- and four-seat personal watercraft models to operate outside of the four established zones within the Sanctuary. By changing the definition and closing the loophole, MPWC will be relegated back the four established zones, restoring the original intent of the law.

    Additionally, NOAA has established a seasonal fifth MPWC zone at Mavericks. NOAA chose Mavericks as the seasonal fifth zone due to the break’s close proximity to an existing offshore MPWC zone. NOAA expects to minimize MPWC impacts to the local environment by restricting their use in this new zone, which borders the existing Fitzgerald Marine Reserve. The seasonal fifth zone would be open for tow-in surfing and MPWC usages from December through February during National Weather Service-issued high surf warnings.

    The inclusion of an additional seasonal fifth MPWC zone at Mavericks for tow-in surfing balances recreational access with maximum protection for Sanctuary resources. The Surfrider Foundation and its local San Mateo County Chapter recognize the value of these objectives and view the seasonal zone as a solution that holds protection of a National Marine Sanctuary in highest regard while allowing recreational use of MPWC.

    “From the start, our goal has been maximal protection for the National Marine Sanctuary,” says Edmundo Larenas, Chair of the Surfrider Foundation San Mateo County Chapter. “We are pleased that NOAA’s inclusive approach with all the stakeholders in working to define the governing regulations produced a result that will restore protection to the National Marine Sanctuary.”

    While the new regulations seek to protect Sanctuary resources and recreational access, the Sanctuary and stakeholders will have to work together to address issues such as safety, enforcement and environmental protection.

    “The addition of a fifth zone will not be without its challenges,” Larenas cautioned. “With the seasonal fifth zone in place, it is important for all stakeholders to continue working together to safe guard the environment around the established fifth zone.”

    The new regulations are expected to go in effect February 2009.

    About Surfrider Foundation

    The Surfrider Foundation is a non-profit grassroots organization dedicated to the protection and enjoyment of our world’s oceans, waves and beaches. Founded in 1984 by a handful of visionary surfers in Malibu, California, the Surfrider Foundation now maintains over 50,000 members and 80 chapters worldwide. For more information on the Surfrider Foundation, go to www.surfrider.org<http://www.surfrider.org/> .


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    This is not a victory, it is a sham(e). Will Surfrider address the nuclear dump zones in our Sanctuary waters? A convenient truth often ignored, instead Surfrider agrees that a PWC poses a greater threat than nuclear waste? What is the consensus and backroom deal on this one folks? This is something that should be demanded from your organization and its board of directors in good faith of water quality and safety. The founding fathers of Surfrider would never stand for this kind of organizational behavior. What happened to Surfrider?

    Surfrider has been duped into NOAA 'personalized' attack against a specific recreational activity that has absolutely nothing to do with management of sanctuary resources! PWC designs are well above strict federal environmental regulations, and NOAA and Surfrider are both aware of this. Surfrider didn't bother to look at both sides of the issue without prejudice and bias.

    There was never a loophole as stated. When biased statements like this are published and adopted from language given by NOAA, groups and citizens are condemned and judged and the weakness of American's not following through on their own volition for truth and accountability. Socialist countries behave in this manner, this is un American. We end up less than informed, a complete injustice to honor and integrity, and our children lose privileges and rights that will probably never be given back. Less government involvement in our lives leads to a better quality of life! Has the Surfrider membership learned nothing about bureaucracy?

    Citizen's taxes that would be better spent on making people's lives better, helping our infrastructure, and enhancing our enjoyment and stewardship of our Pacific Ocean and Mother Earth. Education, safety and enforcement policies already existed, we do not need another layer of government managing our lives for us!

    Too bad Surfrider didn't study current boating laws and regulations and support our taxpayers in good stewardship and honor in endorsing the boating officers of California who do care about public safety and recreation, regardless of the activity chosen. Laws existed that addressed the concerns of recreational behavior, NOAA never engaged in partnership with California boating organizations, they partnered instead with environmental groups who have no stakeholding in recreational boating.

    Take an honest look at surfing and it's impact. I follow a motion for surfing wax, neoprene, surfboard construction, footpaths and trespassing on private property, trash/litter, parking zones, traffic, aggressive abuse of surfers in the lineup, urination, and basically the negative aspects of human impact created by the surfing community to be addressed and evaluated in these same zones. Let's see who really creates more negative impact and accountability. Sounds uncomfortable doesn't it, but it could be a surfers worst nightmare, would Surfrider then support surfers or NOAA? Don't think it can't happen to you.

    It would be nice if Surfrider and NOAA would finally provide/'produce their scientific data that has never been presented to the 'stakeholders'. Those who participated in the 'stakeholder' process are all in agreement it was not a democratic and open process that enabled recreational activities to benefit, but to lose. All data given in good faith was catalogued and used against the stakeholders not just boaters, but all stakeholders.

    It would also be nice to see the financial report on how much this process from inception to date and into the future management of this review and enforcement will cost taxpayers? Where are those real numbers? How many millions of dollars have been spent from the beginning and in perpetuity to regulate a recreational boating activity, rather than focus on real world environmental concerns, instead of operator behavior of a vessel. And how many PWC's would this include versus surfers?

    Any Surfrider member with intelligence could simply look at the 10 ten threats to the Sanctuary resources and sensibility would say a Personal Watercraft definitely does not fit the category of a top 'threat'. Isn't Surfrider supposed to be concerned about the near shore water quality for surfers? What would that exact threat be?

    Perhaps it is time to lobby using the ATLAS study against paddle in surfing in sanctuary waters and elsewhere, you never know how much impact is damaging resources, perhaps we could solicit a scientific study from NOAA to research any probability. And Surfrider members could fund it in good faith.

    Claiming one precedent as a victory can affect many other users groups, we are not protected from the water grab that is taking the entire western coastline of the United States. I fear for the future of my children and their access rights to recreational pursuits, if this is a victory, I am ashamed of the weakness in America. A chronic dysfunction of our generation lies in not participating and holding our government accountable for the stewardship we entrusted in them on our behalf.

    Surfrider is just another pawn of those in power who will add such groups in favor or their goals as 'partners'. I do not see any recreational partners that are equal in stature and presence. "Stakeholders have been burned at the stake."

    Who will be the privileged surfers who are granted the right to towsurf at Mavericks? Since when did Surfrider and NOAA manage recreational surfing as part of their charter? This is a sad day in the State of California for surfers, state boating resources and other recreationalists. Will surfing itself be targeted next? Surfrider has good programs in effect, but Surfrider is given a grade 'F' for failure on this one folks.

    What a disgrace to justice and the right to due process, it is a direct violation of our Constitutional 3rd Amendment. This is not a victory, it is a shameless water grab using environmental concerns as an excuse.

    Shawn Alladio
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    www.TheLivesYouSave.com

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    PHOTO: University of Alaska Anchorage
    This sea otter says, "Thank you Surfrider and NOAA!!"




    Increased Protection For
    Monterey Bay Sanctuary


    After nearly a decade of working with Surfrider Foundation's San Mateo Chapter and various other stakeholders, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration is enacting new regulations designed to enhance wildlife protection in the Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary. The new regulations close an existing loophole that allowed unregulated usage of marine personalized watercraft (MPWC) within the Sanctuary. MPWC use will now be confined to four established zones, restoring the original intent of the law-protection of the National Marine Sanctuary. Additionally, a fifth seasonal zone was created to allow limited tow-in surfing at the world-renown Mavericks surf break, during certain times of the year when wave heights exceed 20 feet
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    Monday, November 17, 2008


    SURFRIDER CELEBRATES INCREASED PROTECTION FOR MONTEREY BAY SANCTUARY


    New Regulations Close Loopholes and Establishes Seasonal Fifth Zone For Personal Watercraft Use


    After nearly a decade of work, the Surfrider Foundation is celebrating a twofold success that balances resource protection with recreational access in the Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary (MBNMS).

    Through a joint management plan review process in which many stakeholders participated, the Surfrider Foundation and its chapters worked with the Sanctuary officials and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) to close a loophole in the laws governing usage of motorized personal watercraft (MPWC) in the Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary. The original restrictions were established in 1992 and designed to provide enhanced resource protection for marine mammal and seabird concentrations, kelp forests, river mouths, estuaries, lagoons and all near shore areas that numerous studies have shows to be highly vulnerable to disturbance and injury from personal watercraft. However changes in watercraft technology and design resulted in a definition loophole that allowed newer three- and four-seat personal watercraft models to operate outside of the four established zones within the Sanctuary. By changing the definition and closing the loophole, MPWC will be relegated back to the four established zones, restoring the original intent of the law.

    Additionally, NOAA has established a seasonal fifth MPWC zone at Mavericks. NOAA chose Mavericks as the seasonal fifth zone due to the break’s close proximity to an existing offshore MPWC zone. NOAA expects to minimize MPWC impacts to the local environment by restricting their use in this new zone, which borders the existing Fitzgerald Marine Reserve. The seasonal fifth zone would be open for tow-in surfing and MPWC usages from December through February during National Weather Service-issued high surf warnings.

    The inclusion of an additional seasonal fifth MPWC zone at Mavericks for tow-in surfing balances recreational access with maximum protection for Sanctuary resources. The Surfrider Foundation and its local San Mateo County Chapter recognize the value of these objectives and view the seasonal zone as a solution that holds protection of a National Marine Sanctuary in highest regard while allowing recreational use of MPWC.

    “From the start, our goal has been maximal protection for the National Marine Sanctuary,” says Edmundo Larenas, Chair of the Surfrider Foundation San Mateo County Chapter. “We are pleased that NOAA’s inclusive approach with all the stakeholders in working to define the governing regulations produced a result that will restore protection to the National Marine Sanctuary.”

    While the new regulations seek to protect Sanctuary resources and recreational access, the Sanctuary and stakeholders will have to work together to address issues such as safety, enforcement and environmental protection.

    “The addition of a fifth zone will not be without its challenges,” Larenas cautioned. “With the seasonal fifth zone in place, it is important for all stakeholders to continue working together to safeguard the environment around the established fifth zone.”

    The new regulations are expected to go in effect February 2009.



    posted by Surfrider Foundation at 1:30 PM

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    if you are reading this and you are not a member of the AWA, join - they are our only voice

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    The next 4-8 years will be just like this.

    It's really sad.

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    Here are some interesting 'hater' comments..
    Enjoy the trash! LOL

    http://www.surfersvillage.com/commen...?Id_news=37627

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    Complete CRAP I tell you! It would be safe to say that surfers pollute the waters as much as a PWC does. No longer do you see very many 2 stroke ski's in the ocean, rather modern 4 stroke machines that have to be awarded "Stars" for the environmentally friendly persons. I take it these stars are not good enough. I wish to God that this is not a personal vendetta that one man set out to get another, as it has serious implications to many other parties. If a PWC is not allowed in a certain area I will assume that Boats are not allowed either. WRONG. Everyone these days are talking about tolerance, well, I don’t see the PWC community being tolerated, rather scorned and sent away. I truly applaud Shawn for calling a spade a spade when needed, and I see her point is spot on with this one. If your going to ban PWC's, then ban boats and surfers as well. Matter of fact, I would CHALLENGE anyone that tows surfers into this area to NOT do it! Let the surfers realize for themselves the difficulty of getting out there minus the thing that you wanted banned. Maybe then, and only then will the realize that maybe they are not half as bad as they think.



    P.S: Every PWC rider KNOWS damm well NOT to go running over kelp. For your information, it clogs up our pumps! So your statement above about us not caring is completely incorrect. We respect and admire the beauty of the ocean as much as anyone else, we can admire from our ski's, whether that is riding the legal distance from the shore line, or riding 20 miles into the open ocean. We get a glimpse of something the normal person does not get, the freedom of the open ocean, and all its beauty, leaving it untouched just as we entered it. Its not PWC's that disturb, or pollute the ocean, WE should be the least of your worries!

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    I love cowards who cannot put their name to thier words. I put my name to my words and back it up with action. These people have no balls.

    Enjoy the entertainment, it's endemnic to apathy feeding on itself:


    http://www.surfersvillage.com/commen...?Id_news=37627

    http://www.surfersvillage.com/surfing/37627/news.htm


    Surfrider blog comments:
    https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?bl...4495929747 06

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    Here are some resource links:

    http://www.surfridersmc.org/portal/D....aspx?tabid=58



    http://montereybay.noaa.gov/intro/mp/welcome.html

    http://montereybay.noaa.gov/resource...ource_pro.html

    http://sanctuaries.noaa.gov/jointplan/

    In order:

    http://montereybay.noaa.gov/intro/mp/mp.html
    http://montereybay.noaa.gov/intro/mp/feis.html
    http://montereybay.noaa.gov/intro/mp/ruling.html


    ________________


    Things NOAA says you as a PWC operator can do:

    http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache...gl=us&ie=UTF-8

    Wildlife disturbance:

    http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache...gl=us&ie=UTF-8

    Read page four on AGENCY TRAINING:

    http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache...WC+zones&hl=en


    They have scripted my business so I cannot teach public safety agencies in sanctuary waters with our training programs. They have also scripted this so ONLY existing personnel can train, NOBODY from outlying counties, cities or states can come and train for mutual aid. You have to read the language correctly becuase it sounds ok, but it is a block essentially. A prejudice against PWC use even on behalf of saving lives for our citizens, and it waters down the safety of professionals who cannot train properly or effectively to save thier own life!

    Plus there has never been a tow in surfing compeititon at Mavericks. I will be astounded the day that happens! As if that token carrot will solve anything.
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    http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache...gl=us&ie=UTF-8

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    Posted this in several threads, but here is my latest response to the Surfrider Blogspot:

    https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?bl...2974706&page=1

    __________________________________

    My reference to due process was not the right to ride a PWC, but the process initiated for 'stakeholders' to have a voice in the process that was equitable and sustainable for future recreational access. The review process result was decided before the process had even begun, and the stakeholders whom attended the meetings, well there was no consensus that was agreed upon in the meetings. There was no tolerance of a PWC being able to access sanctuary waters outside of sensitive MPA zones. And PWC's should not have full access to sensitive zones, nor should any other activity. There was no loophole as stated, so that was given to the public as a 'reason'.

    There was not a 'single' scientific study conducted in these waters of question that applied to the issue itself. Outdated comments were applied from other waterways that were out of state or not the same environment. The nuclear waste issue, how come there is not a highly visible program project that we view the science and data on it? How can a 10 top threat PWC sit alongside a nuclear waste zone that surely has these 'scientific' studies and evals applied, but nothing for a PWC..that is not equitable in my opinion, and yes I am not a highly educated person, just asking questions that seem plausible to me. Recreational boating is a privilige, not a liberty.

    Tolerance is a strength of character and requires if not demands leadership qualities in any individual to best be able to have 'understanding'.

    In terms of anonymity. I put my name to my posts, my reputation and my business. An anonymous post is entertaining but carries no valor or credibility. Like many opponents of truth, these posts are making statements that are once again creating and lending to the myths people who are weak will adopt without asking the 'source'. Creating an 'enemy' is safe because one can project prejudice and feel safe that one is the saviour while the other is the devil. Not true. We are all in the same boat so to say.

    FACT: I teach lifesaving boating education courses. FACT these posters have not attended a class. FACT: We teach ecology and respect to marine life and have for years. FACT: Our education helps the same concerns that Surfrider and NOAA have. FACT: K38 and its affiliates are PARTNERS not adversaries with Surfrider and NOAA, however statements that are not truthful, yes I and my affiliates will point the FACTS straight. FACT: K38 has given 160 FREE scholarships to towsurfers and others on behalf of lifesaving and boating safety education in California specific to the towsurfing problem. FACT: K38 is a leader if not the source of trying to educate operators on the behavior, which is exactly what this whole ban is really about, not environmental or user conflict issues, of which we are also concerned about. FACT: If a business such as K38 is impacted whereas it is blocked from training/teaching/educating users no matter if they are recreational or occupational, from conducting business, the general safety of our waterways is diminished and yes, liability increases. Who assumes the liability? Anonymous perhaps?

    As far as making money, that is pretty funny, do you work so you can give your money away on behalf of others and live a life of sacfrice so others benefit from your dedication? LOL That is the 'have not's take from the haves' mentality that creates a very selfish vein of entitlement. K38 probably has done more for the surfing and boating community singlehandley by a middle aged mother and her children than all these anonymous posters, and if any of these 'anonymous' posters would like a free scholarship to see for yourself how evil our educational outreach programs are and the damage they incur to the safety of our public, write me at my private email addy: [email protected]

    I hope the only time I create a wake for you is when I'm coming out to rescue you and save your life or one of our trained students. So you can come home to your loved ones and enjoy your daily walks and encounters with sea otters in the lineup and enjoy surfing for what it truly is, a free gift of the ocean.

    And it is a shame that people are abusing boating safety, agreed. And it is a shame when you run a red light and get away with it, and it is a shame when there are so many surfers in the lineup that the crowds are creating negative vibes and the parking spaces are limited, its all a shame isn't it? But let's not go there, it's too close to home.

    It is also a shame that people such as yourself and Surfrider chapters do not volunteer to make a difference and educate those who truly need the help, such as PWC users. It does no good to throw stones without changing the impact of how that stone hits and whom.

    My invitation: Come to our classes or our association meetings, or to boating clubs and help get the message of accountability and educational needs to the source of contention. Forcing bans on recreational activities funnels problems, it doesn't cure them at all. Not being able to see the reason of fellowship and kindness is what is tearing America apart and allowing organizations to be used as pawns to create the same ridiculous mudslinging our elected officials adopt and we suffer for it. To change the perception, the behaviors and the human issues that are really the crux of this argument. That is what I am trying to do, both by educating the boating public, and other waterway users, at the end of the day we are all brothers and sisters, not enemies.

    Thank you for all your postings, I respect and value your opinions and time and I wish you all the best in your lives and livelihoods. Thank you for allowing me to participate. Much appreciated.

    Shawn Alladio
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    Last edited by shawn alladio; 11-20-2008 at 06:00 PM. Reason: typos needed fixing

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    WOW Shawn. You are an amazing writer. I love reading your CHIT!

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