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    Replacing zip-ties?

    Ski is a stock 1996 XP 800.

    My new ski has the stock oil injection and I would rather keep it for convenience but I'm reading some of the reasons people remove it being the oil lines popping off and the oil pump failing. I figure I can remove one of those risks by putting something other than a stupid zip-tie on the oil lines.

    While I'm at it I'd also like to do it pretty much everywhere else that I see a zip-tie.

    So my question is, can anyone give me a reason not to replace the zip-ties that litter the motor with respectable worm gear clamps or pinch clamps?


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    i would put all new lines. cheap and easy. make sure the fittings on the oil pump are clean with you remove the pistons. just remember which line goes to which side of the manifold.

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    Do you still have the stock grey fuel lines? Have you cleaned the filters in your carbs? If not, these should be your first order of business unless you want to replace a jug or 2 . I used SS worm clamps when I replaced everything. I also picked up a bunch of the square adheasive zip tie anchors. They allowed me to keep all the lines nice and neat. I would also replace or clean the fuel filter screen above your tank and replace the oil filter which is on the carb side by the mag jug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DooMeister View Post
    Do you still have the stock grey fuel lines? Have you cleaned the filters in your carbs? If not, these should be your first order of business unless you want to replace a jug or 2 . I used SS worm clamps when I replaced everything. I also picked up a bunch of the square adheasive zip tie anchors. They allowed me to keep all the lines nice and neat. I would also replace or clean the fuel filter screen above your tank and replace the oil filter which is on the carb side by the mag jug.
    I think for the most part the fuel lines have been replaced. Except for a few small hard to get at ones (I want to say the ones right under the intake manifold, The ones that feed the carbs.) They are grey and say "tempo" and from what I've gathered I need to replace them ASAP.

    Good to know I can take a fistful of tiny worm clamps and start replacing the zip-ties as I replace the hoses.

    Thanks for all of the other tips as well!

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    Just a FYI...they make zip ties with a metal center piece, that stays locked, compared to the normal all-plastic ones. These you can depend on to never come loose.

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    You know, as I stated in a similar post, I'm working on my fuel lines this weekend. I looked at every F*&^%N autozone, NAPA, Advanceauto, home depot, lowes, and even 2 "marina service shops" in northern Ohio and I couldn't find zipties with SS inserts(or thomas and betts as they are called in other posts). Everyone I asked looked at me like WTF do you need SS inserts for? So, I gave up looking...anyone know where I can get some for a decent price? If I can't find the SS ones, can I double up on the plastic inserts?

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    Would these Oetiker SS stepless clamps do the job?


    Size range Width x Thickness
    6.5 - 11.8 mm 5.0 x 0.5 mm
    11.9 - 120.5 mm 7.0 x 0.6 mm

    • 360° Stepless® Design – no steps or gaps on inner circumference
    • Narrow band, concentrated seal compression
    • Specially formed strip edges reduce the risk of damage to the part being clamped
    • Lightweight design
    • Tampering is visible
    167 Stainless Steel, Material no. 1.4301 / UNS S30400

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    Quote Originally Posted by K447 View Post
    Would these Oetiker SS stepless clamps do the job?


    Size range Width x Thickness
    6.5 - 11.8 mm 5.0 x 0.5 mm
    11.9 - 120.5 mm 7.0 x 0.6 mm

    • 360° Stepless® Design – no steps or gaps on inner circumference
    • Narrow band, concentrated seal compression
    • Specially formed strip edges reduce the risk of damage to the part being clamped
    • Lightweight design
    • Tampering is visible
    167 Stainless Steel, Material no. 1.4301 / UNS S30400

    ABSOLUTELY!!! I even have the $100 pliers from the dealer to "properly" install them. I did not however, want to spent $8.00 per hoseclamp to replace my fuel lines.

    Thanks for the input. I always thought the dealer had some little elfs making these in the back room and charged $8.00 per clamp and $100 for the "right" pliers.

    Before I get flame-sprayed, no I did not buy the pliers, I got them as a gift...

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    Check Thomas & Betts online: http://www.tnb.com/ps/dls/dls?ca=corp
    You can locate a local dealer using the link. They are kinda pricey for what you think you are getting. A small bulk pack of them (100) cost me close to $13 but that's what you pay for convenience and peace of mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcman4usn View Post
    ...I did not however, want to spent $8.00 per hoseclamp to replace my fuel lines...
    Not sure exactly what size you need, but McMaster-Carr is selling them for under 50 cents each...



    15/64" to 9/32" 5.8 to 7 13/64" 52545K38 $8.26 per Pack of 25
    9/32" to 11/32" 7 to 8.7 13/64" 52545K26 8.26 per Pack of 25
    5/16" to 3/8" 7.8 to 9.5 13/64" 52545K42 8.26 per Pack of 25
    11/32" to 13/32" 8.8 to 10.5 13/64" 52545K27 8.26 per Pack of 25
    3/8" to 7/16" 9.6 to 11.3 13/64" 52545K45 8.26 per Pack of 25
    27/64" to 17/32" 10.8 to 13.3 9/32" 52545K51 8.35 per Pack of 25
    29/64" to 35/64" 11.5 to 14 9/32" 52545K52 8.40 per Pack of 25
    15/32" to 37/64" 12.3 to 14.8 9/32" 52545K53 8.48 per Pack of 25

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