Thread: Advent w/ MicroSquirt v2.0
06-01-2009, 01:54 PM #1
Advent w/ MicroSquirt v2.0
Hey guys, is anyone familiar with MicroSquirt v2.0?
I am thinking of using it in conjunction with the Advent T4 for my 2008 GP1300R instead of switching to carbs.
Just wanted to get some feedback.
06-01-2009, 02:55 PM #2
Welcome to GH.Interesting device.Did you contact them to see if they have the proper connections?
06-01-2009, 03:05 PM #3
I know that the MegaSquirt was installed on an older SeaDoo. I am still waiting on a response from one of the vendors and just posted a pwc specific question on the MicroSquirt forum. From the preliminary research I have done it looks like it will hook up, just has to be wired in properly.
The MircoSquirt seems to be mostly applied to motorcycles and snowmobiles and is fully tunable. It is marketed for PWC's, just not sure how much use it has had on the water.
06-01-2009, 03:25 PM #4
Email response from DIYAutoTune
Sure, I can help you out with this one, but we don't have much first hand experience with this sort of thing, as its not as common of an application even though the MicroSquirt was designed with stuff like your Jet Ski in mind. First, here is a link to the manual for it, http://www.microsquirt.info/
It should be a pretty easy thing to tune, although I can't say for sure as I don't know what your back ground is. We've had a lot of customers who haven't even changed their own oil before buy one of our systems, install, configure, and tune the system with just the information in the manuals, online, and asking us when they get stuck. Now, I'm not sure if anyone has ever done an install on your exact model here, but the best place to ask would be the MicroSquirt forums, http://www.microsquirt.com/
Here is what we recommend for most normal installs,
MicroSquirt $400 Assembled ECU (includes short harness & tuning cable)
GM3bar-map $64 MAP sensor
GM3bar_piggy $11 Pigtail connector for MAP sensor
CLTIATwPiggy $17.75 Coolant / Oil temperature sensor
IATwPiggy $22.25 Intake Air Temperature Sensor
38NPT-Bung_A $9 Aluminum bung for IAT sensor (Also available in stainless steel)
USB-2920 $20 (Only needed if your laptop doesn’t have a true DB9 port)
Subtotal without wideband-- $544
LC-1 without gauge $199 (you can still view real-time AFR and datalog AFR through your laptop)
LC-1 with Westach analog gauge $258
LC-1 with DB digital gauge $229 (available in red or blue)
LC-1 with G series analog gauge $289
LC-1 with XD-16 digital gauge $329
LM-2 basic data logger with one sensor $349
LM-2 deluxe kit with one O2 sensor $479
LM-2 deluxe kit with two O2 sensors $669
I think this will give you a pretty good start in the right direction. If you’d like to place an order, you can do so at www.diyautotune.com/catalog and it will calculate exact shipping costs (based on weight of your order) and accept all major credit cards or paypal securely. If there is anything else I can assist with, please just let me know!
Thanks, Justin ShahanTechnical supportDIYAutoTune.com
06-03-2009, 11:45 AM #5
DIYAutoTune response to Narrowband vs Wideband
Sure, with a narrow band sensor, one can really only tell for certain whether they're rich or lean, but not by how much. For a narrow band sensor, the 12.5:1 AFR required for maximum power can give O2 voltage from 0.8 to 0.95 (depending on exhaust gas temperature), yet this same range of O2 voltages can indicate mixtures from 10:1 to 14.5:1. So we cannot use it reliably to set mixtures for full power. With a wide-band sensor, 12.5:1 corresponds to 2.08 volts, and 2.08 volts means 12.5:1. Thus there is no ambiguity over AFR and voltages. We can measure any mixture in the range we are likely to use, from full power through to maximum economy.
Now, it does require mounting in the exhaust, which I'm not sure if you have enough on the jet ski to mount the sensor in.
One thing that I would highly recommend doing, since you're new to this, have a read through the MegaManual, http://www.megamanual.com/mtabcon.htm It has some great information in it about EFI in general, not just the Megasquirt systems, so its a great thing for people who are very familiar with this stuff to read.
Thanks, Justin ShahanTechnical supportDIYAutoTune.com
06-03-2009, 11:46 AM #6
Email response from EFI Source
We have no experience in the PWC market and to our knowledge you would be one of the first people we know of to try a microsquirt in this application.
FYI the microsquirts enclosure in not fully sealed or water tight.
06-03-2009, 11:49 AM #7
Email response from Al Grippo, co-creater of Microsquirt
One of the early uses of megasquirt was on a seadoo turning at 20K rpm if I remember. Other early uses were on sandrails and off roading, both very harsh environments. The microsquirt is much better built than the earlier, do-it-yourself units and the Ampseal connectors are very well sealed. So with proper attention to maintaining a seal on the box there is no reason microsquirt won't work on a watercraft.
06-03-2009, 12:10 PM #8
microsquirt forum links
Not too much info here. A guy out of St. Louis put a Squirt on his Seadoo back in 2004. I emailed him but haven't heard back yet.
His old website directory tree. The images still pull up.
12-18-2012, 11:11 PM #9
I just noticed this thread. That was my ski. I was spinning about 8000 RPM. I still have the ski but it is now retired.
12-19-2012, 04:17 PM #10
Do you want to sell your Fuel injection set-up?
Users Browsing this Thread
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
By John in forum Yamaha PWC Performance (2-stroke)Replies: 10Last Post: 11-13-2008, 12:31 PM
By mjet in forum Yamaha PWC Performance (2-stroke)Replies: 8Last Post: 05-20-2006, 03:33 PM
By Mik72e in forum Yamaha PWC Performance (2-stroke)Replies: 4Last Post: 03-23-2006, 10:09 PM
By salty in forum Yamaha PWC Performance (2-stroke)Replies: 5Last Post: 03-16-2006, 12:23 AM
By RichGPR in forum Yamaha PWC Performance (2-stroke)Replies: 14Last Post: 11-21-2005, 07:16 PM