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    I finally had a chance to measure my ski against my friends nearly stock GPR. the results are surprising and should dispell some common notions about the conversion ski's.

    The test involved a 24x24 wood stand that I made, and a set of car scales. The scales were arranged so that each corner of the stand was centered on the scale. A center mark was drawn on the stand. The ski's were lowered onto the scale after they were zeroed out with the stand on them. then they were slid forwards or backwards so that each one read as close to the same as possible. Once this was done, the line from the center of the stand was copied onto the hull representing the balance point. Measurements were then taken from the end of the stock tabs to the mark.

    Both ski's were 100% ready to drop in the water and ride. Both had full tanks of gas, full oil, battery, tow ropes, dry box, fire extinguisher, ect. I feel this is an accurate way of measuring these things, since manufactureres listed dry weight means nothing if you actually plan on riding.

    Both were weighed with my seat. My seat is bone dry, the stock seat cover was removed and a hydroturf cover installed. The foam was not touched. The other ski's seat is original, but had some waterlog. Mine weighed 17 lbs. the other was 22 lbs.

    First up is my buddies 2000 gpr. Mods are as follows:
    -solas prop
    -flame arrestors
    -D plate
    -All else 100% stock as it left the factory

    Total weight 832lbs.
    Balance point 48.875" from the end of the stock trim tab


    My ski has the following stock parts:
    -tabs
    -sponsons
    -waterbox
    -sound suppression
    -gas tank
    -prop
    -midwall
    -Steering

    Conversion specific parts:
    -aluminum motor mounts
    -1200 grate
    -FF plate
    -heat exchanger
    -thermostat and coolant bottle
    -08 mid pipe
    -05 pump with 2" ext
    -My drive shaft
    -Reinforced tunnel
    -front grate support

    Conversion ski weight 849lbs
    Balance point 47.625" from end of stock trim tab


    that means that a gpr, regardless of the motor weighs more than 1000lbs with a rider!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So, 17 lbs heavier for the conversion, but it's balance point is 1.25" further to the rear!
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    '00/ 05 GPRXP
    '16 PX

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  • #2
    Good data
    1999 GP1200 70+
    1990 FJ1200 150+
    1985 FJ1100 150+

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    • #3
      Good stuff Mike.
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      2004 MSX 1500SC
      T-45 GPRXP
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      • #4
        Thank you Mike !!!!!!!!!!!! We appreciate how much work you have into doing that.

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        • #5
          Thanks Mike, Looking at the RR weight, is that where the IC, battery or exchanger is at?

          also, would it be safe to say and open loop conversion is closer to a stock GPR in weight?
          2000 Stock GPRXP ~ 83.6 / 7900 rpm
          2006 Stock RXP ~ 67.7 mph
          2000 Stage II GP1200R ~ 76.7 / 7400 rpm (retired motor 2007 for conversion build)
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          • #6
            Originally posted by RX951 View Post
            Thanks Mike, Looking at the RR weight, is that where the IC, battery or exchanger is at?

            also, would it be safe to say and open loop conversion is closer to a stock GPR in weight?

            no. that's the stock ski. The pic of the display from the conversion was whited out by the flash the stand must have has a little twist in it because 2 opposite corners would always seem to balance out.

            I think an open loop ski like yours is propably within a few pounds of mine. the aluminum mounts save 10lbs, and it all gets put back by the cooling system. yours actually may be slightly heavier because of the heavy jpipe. my entire exhaust is aluminum.
            '00/ 05 GPRXP
            '16 PX

            PM me about Conversion mounts, Driveshafts, Exhausts

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            • #7
              oh, MOD's, i wasn;t sure if this should go in performance or FAQ. . . please move it if i put it in the wrong spot.
              '00/ 05 GPRXP
              '16 PX

              PM me about Conversion mounts, Driveshafts, Exhausts

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              • #8
                This is good Data
                2000 Stock GPRXP ~ 83.6 / 7900 rpm
                2006 Stock RXP ~ 67.7 mph
                2000 Stage II GP1200R ~ 76.7 / 7400 rpm (retired motor 2007 for conversion build)
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                • #9
                  Kinda what I came up with only by feel. The newer Efi hulls are much lighter and weight is more towards the rear.
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                  • #10
                    Thanks for all that good data!!

                    And could we get down with this hull weight once and for all..

                    Are the new 03 hulls really lighter? How much? (No guesses thanks!

                    Thanks!

                    Originally posted by Duke View Post
                    Kinda what I came up with only by feel. The newer Efi hulls are much lighter and weight is more towards the rear.
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                    • #11
                      Sounds about right. I reported the following in 06.
                      -2002 GPRXP 800lbs.
                      -6 gallons gas
                      -closed loop cooling with very large heat exchanger.
                      -SST mounts
                      -Jpipe and rotax waterbox
                      -06 pump with 2" extention.
                      -Hull was completely dry, and had not been in water for 2 years.
                      -Battery was mounted across from waterbox in rear.
                      -Internal IC.
                      -Balance point was within an inch of the stock point.

                      ...and just like EVERY conversion on the water, they will all be a little different for balance point/weight, since everyone has their own way to build a mousetrap.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ExciterGPR View Post
                        Thanks for all that good data!!

                        And could we get down with this hull weight once and for all..

                        Are the new 03 hulls really lighter? How much? (No guesses thanks!

                        Thanks!

                        i picked up an 07 hull the other day. I'll try to weigh it vs an empty 00 hull that I have.
                        '00/ 05 GPRXP
                        '16 PX

                        PM me about Conversion mounts, Driveshafts, Exhausts

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                        • #13
                          Great!!
                          Seadoo RXT260RS "PlasticFantastic"
                          GPRXP project
                          Exciter Evil Edition project SOLD

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by addicted View Post
                            i picked up an 07 hull the other day. I'll try to weigh it vs an empty 00 hull that I have.
                            Very interested in that info !!!
                            ​DCCmotorsports

                            Please contact [email protected] for services and builds.

                            100 in the 1/8th mile!!!

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                            • #15
                              Not the best comparison, but it's the best I can do right now.

                              '00 hull


                              Dry
                              fresh paint
                              tabs
                              small hull cut
                              gpr tank and sender
                              complete 05 pump
                              shoe
                              1200 grate
                              tunnel reinforcement
                              front and side rub rails
                              some misc plumbing
                              gauge
                              and whatever else is in the pics
                              377 lbs


                              '07 hull
                              large area cut out see pics
                              no pump
                              no shoe
                              no tank
                              small hull cut
                              oil pan bumpers

                              236Lbs



                              my Karavan galvanized single trailer is 205lbs. . .
                              Attached Files
                              '00/ 05 GPRXP
                              '16 PX

                              PM me about Conversion mounts, Driveshafts, Exhausts

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