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  • Replacing wear ring and repairing impeller 07-12F

    Sorry Long post.
    Ok Greenhulkers. This post is information only. I am not selling or pushing anything/anyone in this post, so please don't ask. It is just basically how I did it for your viewing purposes only. There are many ways to skin a cat but this is how I did it. I am well aware about sending my pump out and having this done. So I fully understand the service that is available by the pros. I will have pics coming very soon. However, I have not tested the machine yet. A little history about me: I have a pretty good shop at my house. I am thankful for what I have and thank my Father for instilling/teaching me when I was very young to be a craftsman and to get something done right; do it yourself. I do not consider myself a machinist or a welder but I can make parts and or repair them. I can weld steel, stainless, inconel, aluminum and other exotic metals. Again, this is just a hobby.
    I am going to explain the whole process here and only add pics in subsequent posts with just one liners. I will try to add the pics chronologically when I can, however some maybe out of order.
    So here we go.
    The machine had catastrophic pump bearing failure at about 45 hours, looks like water intrusion caused it. I had to get a new shaft, bearings, etc. Pump housing was good; seal area got a little buggerd up. I cleaned that area up with a boring bar on the mill. Then I was able to order a wear ring from a company on ebay from ebay seller=jet-ski-parts for 69.95. Disclaimer, I have no affiliation with this ebay seller. Just trying to help out other Greenhulk members. I am sure some of you will cringe/pucker at this vendor but when I got the well packaged part the fit and finish of this ring was pretty good. The weld seam was also pretty good. I still may dress it up a little once I start checking the impeller clearance. It took 10 minutes to cut the old wear ring out with a dremmel tool being careful not to cut into the aluminum pump housing. I had the new wear ring in the freezer overnight. I heated the housing with a heat gun. I did not really get it super hot. I wore gloves handling the cold wear ring. I got the wear ring started by hand, no hammering, just my hands. I then took the whole set up to my press and finished pressing it in using a large flat plate of aluminum to press it in evenly. A few pumps and I was done. LOL. Total time to install the wear ring, about 5 minutes. Remember there is a small factory set screw protruding into the wear ring. Thus a hole needs to be drilled into the new wear ring. This was the longest and most painful part of this process. Drilling this by hand without a milling machine will be very difficult and not to ruin the tiny threads in the housing. Once I had the hole centered on my milling machine I made sure the table was locked in both X and Y axis. I used a tiny drill bit, but before that, I used a transfer punch just to get an indentation to keep the drill bit from walking. This stuff is like drilling glass. So far so good and cleaned the burrs off the wear ring. Blue locktite the screw home.
    Now, onto the impeller. I checked the clearance with a feeler gauge and it was about .022ÔÇØ. That is just too much gap. Plus the impeller had clearly been made ÔÇ£smallerÔÇØ because of the bearing failure. Thus I TIG welded up the edges using 312 rod. I used pulse mode in order to keep the heat down. I alternated the welds around too, and let it cool in-between to prevent warping. This is currently where I am at right now. I am going to set up a tool post grinder on my lathe in order to achieve the size and clearance I am looking for. I will again post pics when I get this set up and cutting. I may post a Youtube vid on this as well. Water and weather is still cold here. Probably will be testing this thing in a month or so stay tuned.
    T.J.

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    Puked pump. Nice.


    Bugger housing.


    Made a jig for the pump housing to fit in the Kurt vice.


    locating center of hole.
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    • #3

      Locking in the DRO



      Just kissed it with the boring bar to clean it up.
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      • #4

        Cut out the wear ring with the dremmel tool. Being very very careful.


        Scotch brite the housing where the new wear ring will live. Mock up on the press.


        Pressing the new wear ring home with flat aluminum plate to keep it even.


        Drove it home. Phew.
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        • #5

          Once again on the Bridgeport drilling the hole for the factory set screw. This was fun....



          Loctite the screw and send it home. Yay, I did not mess up the threads with the drill. Must have done something right.


          Some home made tools to make life a little easier.
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          • #6

            Here is the impeller welded up. Next up OD grinding the impeller on the lathe and setting the clearance I am looking for.

            To be continued.
            T.J.

            Instagram: tjsperformance
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            • #7
              Daaamn.. Not sure what else to say..lol

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              • #8
                Cool! I didn't know you could buy replacement wear rings for Kawasakis. Did you get it from 'that place' in Florida?

                I had to replace the pump housing on my Ultra 150 over the winter. I was going to throw the old one out last weekend, but for some reason, I didn't. I'd love to be able to salvage it.

                I was thinking about trying to put some thread locker all around the circumference of the wear ring (on both ends) to try to seal water out. What do you think about that?

                What kind of mill do you have? I've got an Index 747.
                '15 Kawi Ultra 310X
                '99 Kawi Ultra 150 (2)
                '10 Kawi Ultra LX, '13 Kawi Ultra LX, '13 Kawi Ultra LX parts 'Ski
                '04 Kawi STX 15-F, '06 STX 15-F (2)
                '91 Kawi Jet Mate
                '97 Yamaha Exciter 220 (Boat)
                '99 Yamaha Exciter 270 (Boat)
                '78 Nacra 5.2 Catamaran
                '05 Windrider WR-10 Trimaran, '05 Windrider WR-16 Trimaran
                ... and that's just the boats! I'm living proof that you can have too many toys!

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                • #9
                  [QUOTE=steve45;2717794]Cool! I didn't know you could buy replacement wear rings for Kawasakis. Did you get it from 'that place' in Florida?

                  I had to replace the pump housing on my Ultra 150 over the winter. I was going to throw the old one out last weekend, but for some reason, I didn't. I'd love to be able to salvage it.

                  I was thinking about trying to put some thread locker all around the circumference of the wear ring (on both ends) to try to seal water out. What do you think about that?

                  What kind of mill do you have? I've got an Index 747.[/QUOTE

                  Yes I got it from the place in FLa. The wear ring is press fit. The threadlocker may or may not work. Can't hurt, but as you are pressing it in I think the edges of the new wear ring going into the housing will just displace the threadlocker compound.

                  I have a Bridgeport Milling machine. 2HP J-head. Variable speed. Circa about 1979. Briidgeport Machines has a lot of history in CT. I had a lot of friends who worked there.

                  T.J.
                  Instagram:tjsperformance

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                  • #10
                    I did a search for a replacement liner for an Ultra 150, but couldn't find one. They are cone-shaped, where I think all the others are straight sleeves.
                    '15 Kawi Ultra 310X
                    '99 Kawi Ultra 150 (2)
                    '10 Kawi Ultra LX, '13 Kawi Ultra LX, '13 Kawi Ultra LX parts 'Ski
                    '04 Kawi STX 15-F, '06 STX 15-F (2)
                    '91 Kawi Jet Mate
                    '97 Yamaha Exciter 220 (Boat)
                    '99 Yamaha Exciter 270 (Boat)
                    '78 Nacra 5.2 Catamaran
                    '05 Windrider WR-10 Trimaran, '05 Windrider WR-16 Trimaran
                    ... and that's just the boats! I'm living proof that you can have too many toys!

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                    • #11
                      I finally got around to machining /grinding down my impeller after I TIG welded it up using 312 filler rod. I cobled up a home made tool post grinder that I used a foredom shaft driven grinder. I will make a hanger for the motor and most likely make the tool holder a little better by splitting it and making a cap for it to capture the hand held grinder. I machined this holder on center of the lathe.
                      So here we go.

                      Mounted a grinding wheel to make the initial cuts.


                      Next use sanding rolls to final polish it and remove the grinding wheel marks.


                      After a polish. I have to test fit into the housing. I will post more when I get back to it. I used a new factory shaft for a mandrel that I modified. I must say the runout on these things are terrible. Shame on you Kawasaki. Even the bore of the impeller was off too. It also was torqued to specs before machining.
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                      • #12
                        Short vid.
                        Grinding my kawasaki 12f jetski impeller after i welded it up with 312 stainless. Total pump bearing failure at less than 40 hours. Shame on you kawasaki. I ...

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                        • #13
                          Interesting. But put some plastic on the lathe ways to keep the grit off of them!
                          '15 Kawi Ultra 310X
                          '99 Kawi Ultra 150 (2)
                          '10 Kawi Ultra LX, '13 Kawi Ultra LX, '13 Kawi Ultra LX parts 'Ski
                          '04 Kawi STX 15-F, '06 STX 15-F (2)
                          '91 Kawi Jet Mate
                          '97 Yamaha Exciter 220 (Boat)
                          '99 Yamaha Exciter 270 (Boat)
                          '78 Nacra 5.2 Catamaran
                          '05 Windrider WR-10 Trimaran, '05 Windrider WR-16 Trimaran
                          ... and that's just the boats! I'm living proof that you can have too many toys!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by steve45 View Post
                            Interesting. But put some plastic on the lathe ways to keep the grit off of them!
                            The ways were fully cleaned after this. I do have a cutting board plastic but it woul not fit for what I was doing. I had a towel there but got blown away for the pic.

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                            • #15
                              Done. I must say new factory shafts have some serious runout. Not like the real jet boat Berkeley shafts I am used to. I do not have a 4 jaw so getting this run out to a minimum was challenging when making an impeller cut. My lathe has a half a thou(.0005") run out When I indicated a brand new shaft it had over three and a half thou (.0035") run out. I was able to get it to a thou and a half (.0015") with some "adjustment". Anyway made a final cut and polish and put it in the housing and torqued it up and I checked the clearance with a feeler gauge and got right around nine thou (.009"). I know I can get closer but for this season it is fine. Took it out today and out of the hole is nice and smooth and no odd noises or cavitation. All in all pretty happy with my repair. Here is a final pic of the impeller in the housing with the new wear ring next to the old one. For 69 bucks for the wear ring I would say this is a great deal.
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