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    MSX 1200 Big Bore
    stroker1450; BASED ON BMEP THE 1350 MOTOR TRANSFER PORTS START FLOWING AT 3950 AND RUN OUT AT 7900.
    THE 1350 REQUIRES 47.8 MM CARBS
    THE NEW 1450 MOTOR WILL REQUIRE 50 MM AT 7500.
    Last edited by ph2ocraft; 12-04-2006, 02:18 PM.
    Matrix-two of them, because sometimes one just won't do.
    MSX140 and Hurricane
    Kawasaki Ultra 310
    10' Yamaha FZR
    17' Sea Doo RXT-X300
    18' Sea Doo GTX300
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  • #2
    Jet Works Valve

    From Art's web site.

    The JETWORKS FLOW CONTROL
    VALVE provides improved throttle response and much quicker starts by drying out your water box at low rpm and idle speeds. Tests have shown an average acceleration improvement of 12 feet over a non-equipped model in the first 50 feet. The JETWORKS FLOW CONTROL VALVE allows unrestricted water flow to the stinger for better top speed. Yet it controls the amount of water at low speeds for better response. It also allows for an easier tuning of the carburetors. It does not interfere with normal engine or exhaust pipe cooling and is compatible with all electronic water injection systems.

    In a race start situation, the craft is under a slight load while waiting the start, water fills up the water box and exhaust hoses. Upon sudden acceleration all of this water must be forced out quickly before full exhaust flow can occur. During this time the craft feels a slight hesitation and/or sluggishness, especially when the water box is mounted up front and has a rear exhaust.

    The JETWORKS FLOW CONTROL
    VALVE improves response through turns when the throttle is let off for a split second. This dries out the water box while at the same time raising the water pressure slightly in the head pipe of the exhaust. This raised water pressure allows the water injection orifices and/or nozzles to work quicker and more effectively.

    Two models are available. Both are adjustable. The STANDARD JETWORKS FLOW CONTROL
    VALVE is preset at 3.5p.s.i. and is adjustable by adding the supplied stainless steel shims to increase the spring tension. The PRO-SERIES JETWORKS FLOW CONTROL VALVE is externally adjustable by turning the outer housing by hand. Pressure can be tested with a pop off gauge. Both models feature a positive sealing viton on metal seals with a precision calibrated, variable rate spring. This allows for true water flow and pressure management of multiple water lines and dedicated cooling line applications.

    For the guys that like a little more technical info.

    What the
    valve does is stop the water flowing at idle and off idle speeds into the stinger where it builds up in the waterbox and exhaust hoses. Normally this water has to be forced out upon sudden acceleration in order to get full exhaust flow.

    Here's how it
    works: At lower speeds, the water pressure in the water lines is low and the valve stops the flow to the stinger and raises the line pressure slightly. This improves response off the line and out of turns. At higher speeds, the water pressure rises and opens the valve to the stinger, allowing unrestricted flow of water. This creates a wall stream of water inside the stinger, thereby increasing the reflectability of the pipe in a similar way like a smaller diameter outlet would do.

    What we mean by reflectability, by the way, is how the sonic wave is returned to the exhaust port with more energy, energy that would have escaped through the outlet. What's nice about the water stream is that it's variable; as the back pressure increases, it will push the water aside.
    Last edited by K447; 04-15-2011, 10:39 PM.
    Matrix-two of them, because sometimes one just won't do.
    MSX140 and Hurricane
    Kawasaki Ultra 310
    10' Yamaha FZR
    17' Sea Doo RXT-X300
    18' Sea Doo GTX300
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    • #3
      Fuel Conversion/Oil Ratio

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      MSX140 and Hurricane
      Kawasaki Ultra 310
      10' Yamaha FZR
      17' Sea Doo RXT-X300
      18' Sea Doo GTX300
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      • #4
        Reed Tension Adjustment MT

        Matrix-two of them, because sometimes one just won't do.
        MSX140 and Hurricane
        Kawasaki Ultra 310
        10' Yamaha FZR
        17' Sea Doo RXT-X300
        18' Sea Doo GTX300
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        • #5
          NOVI Fuel Routing/Supply

          crazya


          Matrix-two of them, because sometimes one just won't do.
          MSX140 and Hurricane
          Kawasaki Ultra 310
          10' Yamaha FZR
          17' Sea Doo RXT-X300
          18' Sea Doo GTX300
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          • #6
            Pro 785 CDI conversion

            Originally Posted by Ph2ocraft
            I just verified the operation of the PRO CDI in the 93 750 today, it's perfect thus far, we'll see how it does once the triples are in.

            I'm showing the working RPM's of the 97 PRO785 is 7500RPm and the limiter is set at 7800 RPM. It also has 32 degrees advance at 3,000 RPM so I think it's going to work VERY well with the triples on the 750 (I can't wait). We'll see if I'll run it on 92 or if I need a little VP110.

            The PRO wires up much easier than I initially thought and goes as follows.
            Blue/Red from CDI to Blue/Red from the stator
            Red/White from CDI to Red/White from the stator
            Green/Red from CDI to Green/White from Stator
            White/Yellow from CDI to White/Yellow from Stator
            Black/Yellow from CDI to Black/Yellow from Stop Switch
            Black to Battery Ground
            Black to Box Ground

            I then seperated the wires from the coil pack and wired with individual pig tails as follows.
            Black/Green from CDI to Black/White on PTO Coil
            Black/Orange from CDI to Black/White on Center Coil
            Black/White from CDI to Black/White on MAG Coil
            Black from CDI to Black from Coil Grounds.

            I capped off the following wires from the CDI as I have no use for the exhaust valve electrical signals
            White/Black
            White/Red
            Light Green
            Green
            Red/White

            The last couple of wires
            Tan from CDI to Tan from Temp sensor
            Red/Purple from CDI to Red/purple at LR23
            Yellow/Black from CDI to Yellow/Black from CDI (you read correctly)
            Matrix-two of them, because sometimes one just won't do.
            MSX140 and Hurricane
            Kawasaki Ultra 310
            10' Yamaha FZR
            17' Sea Doo RXT-X300
            18' Sea Doo GTX300
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            • #7
              SLTX Triple Pipe Install Directions

              FP
              Attached Files
              Matrix-two of them, because sometimes one just won't do.
              MSX140 and Hurricane
              Kawasaki Ultra 310
              10' Yamaha FZR
              17' Sea Doo RXT-X300
              18' Sea Doo GTX300
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              • #8
                SLXH Triple Pipe Install Directions

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                Attached Files
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                MSX140 and Hurricane
                Kawasaki Ultra 310
                10' Yamaha FZR
                17' Sea Doo RXT-X300
                18' Sea Doo GTX300
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                • #9
                  How To Determine Deck Height

                  Watcon


                  This was copied from an unknown author. Thanks for the excellent info.

                  How do we determine Piston Deck Height??

                  1. Remove the cylinder head.

                  2. Grab your Dial Indicator and Magnetic Base (very accurate),Flat-Blade Depth Micrometer(accurate

                  3. Place piston at TRUE Top Dead Center (TDC) NOTE: Since every crank has dwell at TDC, determining TRUE TDC can be a bit tricky. Using a custom piston stop is the most accurate method for finding true TDC.
                  4.
                  Now.. you know when you are at true TDC, so, all you have to do is measure the distance from the piston edge to the cylinder deck.

                  Please keep in mind... when measuring the deck height on a crowned piston, it is nearly impossible to get to the actual edge of the piston. This is because your measuring device does have mass and will hit the piston crown before it hits the actual edge. The finer the measuring device.. the more accurate the measurement. So.. if you are using the butt end of a dial caliper on a crowned piston, please keep in mind that this butt end is very wide and flat and will surely hit the crown way before the edge.
                  5.
                  For pistons with a positive deck height, a step micrometer seems to be the most accurate tool for this measurement. It is nearly impossible to accurately measure positive deck without a step micrometer.If you can determine how far above the deck the center of the crown is at true TDC, you can subtract the known crown drop from this number to determine your deck height.


                  Deck Height is very important when determining engine parameters and designing combustion chambers, as there are often variances in cylinder castings, piston heights, connecting rod lengths, and base gasket thicknesses. ALL these things effect port timing and deck height.Deck height is a major player in determining the squish clearance of an engine.
                  6.
                  Squish clearance is the distance from the edge of the piston, at TDC, to the outer edge of the combustion chamber's squish band. So, one can easily see how the deck height effects the squish clearance measurement.

                  You might be saying to yourself " So, what if I am off on my deck height measurement .008", how big of a deal can that be?"
                  Let's look at what .008" does to the compression ratio and volume of an engine.

                  Volume of a cylinder: PI * R^2 (radius = 1/2 bore) * H (Stroke)

                  Example, the 800 Rotax twin engine with an 82mm bore and a 76mm stroke. We will convert the .008" to mm so the numbers in the equation coincide. .008" = .2mm

                  Let's do the math: 3.14 * (82mm/2)^2 * .2mm = 1.05cc of volume change. So, what does 1.05cc of volume increase or decrease on this particular engine? Well.. 1.05cc equates to a 0.4 change in untrapped compression ratio. OK.. 0.4 change in untrapped compression ratio will change a 12:1 engine to a 12.4:1 or a 11.6:1 engine
                  7.
                  So, you can see that the compression ratio is affected but what is also affected is the squish action within the head. Squish action is important in determining power characteristics of an engine. The squish band acts as a cooling layer to help cool the end gases as they are being rapidly compressed. By keeping these gases below their combustible temperature, one can prevent undesired combustion of these end gases in the squish band area. If these end gases are allowed to combust before the oncoming, spark initiated, flame front chooses to combust them, then you have detonation and engine damage.
                  8.
                  The squish action also creates turbulence within the combustion chamber. This turbulence has a direct effect on the flame front speed so, in actuality, it affects ignition timing.

                  One important measurement for the squish action is the Maximum Squish Velocity (MSV). In short, this is the max velocity of the end gases as they are be compressed. It is actually a lot more complicated than that, but I will leave it at that for now. It is measured in meters/sec (m/s).

                  Let's take our above examples and see how squish velocity is changed by a small variance in squish clearance.

                  The first example showed a change in squish clearance of .2mm. This .2mm change in total squish clearance will increase the squish velocity in a 13.5:1 head by 7.4m/s if this .2mm is removed from the total squish clearance. If this .2mm is added to the total squish clearance, then the squish velocity is decreased by 5m/s.

                  Is there a benefit to having a smaller or larger Piston Deck Height??
                  The one that comes to mind first is in the cooling effects of the engine. For example,if the deck height is large in the cylinder, then there may be an argument for the end gases retaining more heat due to them being trapped in the cylinder vs. the head. One may argue that end gases trapped in the head portion of the squish band would be subject to the better cooling properties of the head. This would be a hard theory to prove, but it does have merit.

                  Can the Piston Deck Height be easily changed??
                  Below are several methods of altering deck height, which, as I have shown, also alters MANY other operating factors.

                  1. Changing base gasket thickness
                  2. Decking cylinder base
                  3. Decking cylinder top
                  4. Changing piston
                  5. Changing crank
                  6. Changing rod length
                  7. Changing stroke
                  8. Altering piston crown
                  Matrix-two of them, because sometimes one just won't do.
                  MSX140 and Hurricane
                  Kawasaki Ultra 310
                  10' Yamaha FZR
                  17' Sea Doo RXT-X300
                  18' Sea Doo GTX300
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                  • #10
                    Domestic Pipe Mod 1050/1200

                    crazy
                    Last edited by ph2ocraft; 01-19-2007, 07:59 PM.
                    Matrix-two of them, because sometimes one just won't do.
                    MSX140 and Hurricane
                    Kawasaki Ultra 310
                    10' Yamaha FZR
                    17' Sea Doo RXT-X300
                    18' Sea Doo GTX300
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                    • #11
                      PRO785 Lord Mounts

                      rgard
                      785 rubber pipe mounts

                      Mine broke.and after looking at them ..Well there glued together...which is junk for surf riding..... i bought these

                      5823K21Natural Rubber Sandwich Mount W/304 SS Stud Cylindrical, Male/Male, 3/8"-16 Thread, 3/4" Height
                      from mcmaster.com

                      .the original mounts are 1 1/4 inch thick rubber.. i used washers to make up the 1/2 difference....the diameter of the rubber was bigger also...BUT i didnt have any issues with clearances... these mounts are 11 bucks and are a TON stronger than the 48 dollar mounts polaris sells..

                      ps-- these screw right into the hull mounts...same size and are stainless steel
                      Matrix-two of them, because sometimes one just won't do.
                      MSX140 and Hurricane
                      Kawasaki Ultra 310
                      10' Yamaha FZR
                      17' Sea Doo RXT-X300
                      18' Sea Doo GTX300
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                      • #12
                        Primer Kit Installation

                        rodney

                        Last edited by ph2ocraft; 02-20-2007, 12:08 AM.
                        Matrix-two of them, because sometimes one just won't do.
                        MSX140 and Hurricane
                        Kawasaki Ultra 310
                        10' Yamaha FZR
                        17' Sea Doo RXT-X300
                        18' Sea Doo GTX300
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                        • #13
                          Wiseco Piston Install

                          rodneya

                          SEA std ring gap .004 for every inch of bore
                          Example: 780 Fuji .20 oversize you want a clearance of .009
                          Last edited by ph2ocraft; 02-20-2007, 12:11 AM.
                          Matrix-two of them, because sometimes one just won't do.
                          MSX140 and Hurricane
                          Kawasaki Ultra 310
                          10' Yamaha FZR
                          17' Sea Doo RXT-X300
                          18' Sea Doo GTX300
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                          • #14
                            Measuring Squish Clearance

                            crazya
                            How to Measure
                            Your Cylinder Head Squish Clearance...


                            The "squish" band is a somewhat narrow angle cut into the outer periphery of the combustion chamber that comes into a close clearance proximity with the piston crown outer edges at TDC (Top Dead Center) of crankshaft rotation. Measuring it accurately so as to make decisions about what modification(s) should be made to an engine's compression ratio and combustion chamber is a critical reference step in planning a high performance motor.
                            To determine your actual squish clearance...
                            You will need about a 10" length of solder of a diameter that is thicker than your current squish clearance. Common available diameters are approximately .038", .065", .090" and about .140". Start with the .065" (in tightly set-up race engines of smaller displacement you may need only the .038") and if it is not thick enough because your squish clearance turns out to be greater, just go up to the next size. IMPORTANT! IF YOU USE SOLDER THAT IS THICKER THAN NECESSARY TO MEASURE THE EXISTING CLEARANCE (Example: Using .090" thickness solder in a cylinder with .055" squish clearance, when the proper solder thickness to be used would be .065") YOUR MEASURED CLEARANCE WILL BE INACCURATE!!! If you get inaccurate squish clearance impressions, everything that is deduced from them will be seriously flawed. THIS IS A BIG DEAL, SO TREAT IT WITH PROPERLY DUE ATTENTION!
                            Cut the solder tips squarely with a single edge razor blade so each tip is cut perfectly perpendicular to the solder length. This is also VERY IMPORTANT to get accurate indications from the very edge of the combustion chamber limits! Bend the solder into an upside down "U" shape with the "legs" about 1/2" apart and parallel to eachother. Now cross the "legs" over eachother. You should now have an inverted "U" of solder with "legs" crossed in an "X" pattern.
                            Remove spark plug from your engine. Bring the engine up to approximate top dead center (follow the piston up the bore with another piece of solder stuck into the plug hole.......). Now back the motor up opposite normal direction of rotation until the piston has dropped about an inch back down the bore. Insert your two "legs" of solder into the plug hole while holding the solder by its' "U". Push and allow the "legs" to splay left and right across the piston dome INLINE WITH THE WRIST PIN AXIS. Do NOT push the "legs" fore and aft (front to back) in the bore or the potential for the piston to "tilt" on the wrist pin in its' cylinder wall clearance could give you false readings.
                            You'll be able to "feel" the tips of the solder as they move left and right out to the cylinder wall limits. When you feel them touch the cylinder wall, stop pushing and hold what you've got with one hand while rotating the motor up to TDC with the other hand by its' flywheel or similar. If the solder is thicker than your squish clearance you will feel resistance as you reach TDC. If the resistance is too great to roll past TDC, select another length of solder of the next thinner diameter.
                            Roll the engine through TDC and allow the piston to descend enough down the bore to easily retract the legs of solder back out through the plug hole. IMPORTANT! Keep track of which tip was at which side of the bore so you'll know which is which if there's a difference in squish clearance from one side of the bore to the other! Differences in clearance from one side to the other are common and can be caused by a "tilted" squish band in the head, "tilted" piston crown, bent rod, cylinder bore not cut perpendicular to the head mating surface, etc.. Noticing that there is a problem and which direction the "tilt" is will alert you to track down the culprit. Now measure the compressed tip ENDS (it is fairly common for the squish band angle in the head and the radius on the piston crown to diverge slightly, thus your "tightest" clearance will be right at the very ends of your solder) and record them. This is your actual squish clearance at TDC
                            Matrix-two of them, because sometimes one just won't do.
                            MSX140 and Hurricane
                            Kawasaki Ultra 310
                            10' Yamaha FZR
                            17' Sea Doo RXT-X300
                            18' Sea Doo GTX300
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                            • #15
                              PSI Triple Pipe Install 650,750,780.

                              Thanks sealion. I just put it together in one place.
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                              2004 MSX 1500SC
                              T-45 GPRXP
                              1995 785 Three Seat Triple

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