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  • #46
    Originally posted by Green Hulk View Post
    Originally posted by Kmorningstar_rxp View Post
    Does it work on a stock internal ic setup?
    This is not needed on a stock 215 style internal intercooler as the water passages are huge... nothing is clogging them.
    I just picked up a 2014 gtr 215 so your saying I don't need one?

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    • #47
      Originally posted by 2011gti View Post
      Originally posted by Green Hulk View Post
      Originally posted by Kmorningstar_rxp View Post
      Does it work on a stock internal ic setup?
      This is not needed on a stock 215 style internal intercooler as the water passages are huge... nothing is clogging them.
      I just picked up a 2014 gtr 215 so your saying I don't need one?
      You sure don't. The 215's use a different style intercooler that's mounted inside the intake manifold. The water passages are huge... they are not clogging
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      • #48
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        A little advice here guys. The strainer is a great product, works well, and obviously needs to be cleaned frequently.

        I found that the fittings included with this kit can and will get brittle and crack over several years. Been there done that.

        I highly recommend you use Schedule 80 fittings from Home Depot, Lowes, Ace Hardware, etc. The hoses use 3/4" fittings.

        Over kill maybe, but this is the last place you need a leak inside the hull.
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        JPT, I just ordered my strainer...What is that other brass shut off valve?

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        • #49
          Yes, the brass valve with the red metal turn handle is my emergency tow shut of valve. The previous one was PVC and when I need the damn thing it broke.
          sigpic2010 RXT-X Turbo: MoTeC M130, GRF Garrett GTX3071R Turbo.

          2005 GTX-SC (185+hp): 66.5 GPS @ 7650 rpm limit. Riva grate, Riva catch can, Groco strainer-shutoff valve, bilge pump, 4" Kana intake-filter, Riva 2*wedge, Solas 12.5/18, Xternal IC.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Green Hulk View Post
            Originally posted by 2011gti View Post
            Originally posted by Green Hulk View Post
            Originally posted by Kmorningstar_rxp View Post
            Does it work on a stock internal ic setup?
            This is not needed on a stock 215 style internal intercooler as the water passages are huge... nothing is clogging them.
            I just picked up a 2014 gtr 215 so your saying I don't need one?
            You sure don't. The 215's use a different style intercooler that's mounted inside the intake manifold. The water passages are huge... they are not clogging
            10 years later and they still use the manifold plug. What a rip
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            '95 Custom Monterey 225 SCR Open Bow COMPOSITE BEAST

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            • #51
              Originally posted by jpt7779 View Post
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              A little advice here guys. The strainer is a great product, works well, and obviously needs to be cleaned frequently.

              I found that the fittings included with this kit can and will get brittle and crack over several years. Been there done that.

              I highly recommend you use Schedule 80 fittings from Home Depot, Lowes, Ace Hardware, etc. The hoses use 3/4" fittings.

              Over kill maybe, but this is the last place you need a leak inside the hull.
              not wanting to be a pain...would you happen to have a more centered pic? I'd like to see how the hose goes into the IC... thanks either way!

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              • #52
                I just installed one, it took me a few hours to do and more 3/4in hose but im glad i did, it has been catching a lot!

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                • #53
                  Picked up the wife from the beach. Only 2ft deep water.
                  This is the reason why it's only installed in the IC waterline and not in the exhaust line.
                  And next time I will shut off the ski a little earlier.......

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by EVN81 View Post
                    Picked up the wife from the beach. Only 2ft deep water.
                    This is the reason why it's only installed in the IC waterline and not in the exhaust line.
                    And next time I will shut off the ski a little earlier.......

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                    This pic shows why the water flow indicator on the groco strainers are the wrong way. If you turn it around to flow the opposite direction, the debris is on the outside of the mesh and a quick glance you can see without removing it how much stuff is in it.
                    All my skis run strainers, just the other way around.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by SplishSplash View Post
                      Originally posted by EVN81 View Post
                      Picked up the wife from the beach. Only 2ft deep water.
                      This is the reason why it's only installed in the IC waterline and not in the exhaust line.
                      And next time I will shut off the ski a little earlier.......

                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]364988[/ATTACH]
                      This pic shows why the water flow indicator on the groco strainers are the wrong way. If you turn it around to flow the opposite direction, the debris is on the outside of the mesh and a quick glance you can see without removing it how much stuff is in it.
                      All my skis run strainers, just the other way around.
                      Theoretically the flow indicator is NOT wrong. Not that it matters, but technically speaking, when dealing with something like this, which would have a greater chance of collapsing the screen - water pressure on the inside or outside of the "mesh cylinder"?

                      Its easier to to potentially collapse the mesh with pressure to the outside as opposed to the inside of the mesh cylinder.

                      Now running them the way you do may never result in an issue. I'm just saying that's why they suggest running them the way they were designed.
                      Originally posted by wax
                      Yamaha makes them very mild so 2 big fat ladies can troll around towing their husbands on a ring running on last years fuel. Ha ha

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                      • #56
                        Different thought here, but I have always run a strainer right off the pump, before IC and exhaust. My thinking is, do you want all that crap that the strainer catches going through your exhaust? IMO, no ... the casting in the exhaust cooling passages is rough and over time sand and other crap will build up in there and potentially plug some of the small holes in the J pipe/midpipe fittings and other areas.

                        I get that you do not ever want to block water to the exhaust ... but why filter only the water to the IC? I want my exhaust cooling to always work reliably too, and I do not want all the junk plugging up my exhaust cooling.

                        Part of my pre-ride routine is to always open, empty, and clean my strainer ... it never accumulates so much that it would impede flow after only one ride. I also run a much bigger strainer with 1" fittings necked down to 3/4". It is rated to 150 psi and black, got it at Tractor Supply, not sure of brand, but it has easily twice the filtering area/capacity as the standard Groco and was around $25.

                        * Added link to strainer:
                        HYPRO 1 IN. POLYPROPYLENE LINE STRAINER WITH 80 MESH STAINLESS STEEL SCREEN
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                        • #57
                          This is typically what my filter looks like after a day of idling through a sandbar to and from the boat. Even though I always stay at least 4 feet deep through it, there is so much sand being churned up from boat traffic and people. It gets so bad sometimes I can't see my feet in 10" of water.
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                          I also chose to run my filter backwards so I can see how much crap is in it without unscrewing, and it filters both the intercooler and exhaust.
                          2006 RXT

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by tmarsh View Post
                            it filters both the intercooler and exhaust.
                            IMO your asking for trouble
                            I understand you keep a eye on the strainer and are careful near the sand bar
                            but I see your kids or friend not being so careful
                            and having a exhaust overheat, and I have seen skis sink because of a overheat
                            I dont see how fine sand can hurt the exhaust water flow
                            even on the older exhaust had good size holes for the sand to flow thru
                            13 rxpx, motec m400 closed loop, knock, boost control, gps, 9 pos switch, Fizzle HE ic , SJL Custom Tial water cooled gtx2863,, rrfpr, 15/24, bosch 1150cc, e85
                            03 gtx, 9.5:1 CP, vetch 9000 with logger, 110lbs Bosch, et 68-140, walbro pump, rrfpr, xs ic, solas 15/22 , Fizzle 4", rxtx drive train, 05 ecu mpem and vts, e85
                            09 gtx , X wheel, xs ic, 14/19 thru hull exhaust, 4" kanflex, vtech 8450 flash, afr sensor for logger

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by skidoochris View Post
                              I understand you keep a eye on the strainer and are careful near the sand bar
                              but I see your kids or friend not being so careful
                              and having a exhaust overheat, and I have seen skis sink because of a overheat
                              I dont see how fine sand can hurt the exhaust water flow
                              even on the older exhaust had good size holes for the sand to flow thru
                              I put in a lot of thought about filtering the exhaust or not. At the time of install, filtering it seemed like a better idea for me as the other chain of lakes that I ride on close to home is very shallow and downright filthy. But I might change it up because I didn't know before that the pump has a screen before the feed line..

                              As for who rides my ski, nobody drives unless I'm on the back. I let a friend take my old GTI without me, he beached it on the sandbar with the engine running, sucked up some rocks into the impeller, and upon return he slammed it into the dock. That was the one and only time I loaned out my ski, people seem to care more when they use your equipment under your supervision.
                              2006 RXT

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                              • #60
                                2012 180 Challenger SE SCIC application?

                                Originally posted by Green Hulk View Post
                                For those interested, I do sell a water strainer in the online store
                                http://www.4-tecperformance.com/inde...oducts_id=1431
                                I assume this could work on my boat. Someone have a pic of where this doo-hickey (pun intended) goes in-line?

                                Thanks in advance.
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