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  • #76
    Originally posted by DonHy View Post
    Does this catch can work on Seadoo Boats since it's a same engine ? Riva does not mention Seadoo boats but can't see a reason why it wouldnt work.
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    • #77
      Guys, in response to all those comments about running a hose back to the air intake, this is a bad idea for high performance applications such as ours as recirculating crankcase vapors can cause detonation.

      Source of below quote
      https://www.comeanddriveit.com/engine/detonation-and-knock

      Crankcase Oil Vapor aka ÔÇ£Blow-ByÔÇØ from the PCV System

      An issue particularly troublesome on high RPM and high boost motors is aerated oil vapor being blown back through the intake track via the positive crankcase ventilation, PCV, system. The oil has a significantly lower auto-ignition temperature and will ignite early causing detonation in sufficient volumes.


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      • #78
        Originally posted by Green Hulk View Post
        [SIZE=2]Guys, in response to all those comments about running a hose back to the air intake, this is a bad idea for high performance applications such as ours as recirculating crankcase vapors can cause detonation.

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        Save your motor and bank account. Learn about detonation, why it happens, and how to prevent it.


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        Originally posted by Crankcase Oil Vapor aka ÔÇ£Blow-ByÔÇØ from the PCV System
        An issue particularly troublesome on high RPM and high boost motors is aerated oil vapor being blown back through the intake track via the positive crankcase ventilation, PCV, system. The oil has a significantly lower auto-ignition temperature and will ignite early causing detonation in sufficient volumes.

        The oil comes from the high-pressure power stroke bleeding gas past the compression rings (rings #1 ÔÇô 2) and down into the crankcase. The crankshaft is spinning at a high rate of speed, which creates a very turbulent environment of air and fine oil droplets known as ÔÇ£windage.ÔÇØ These droplets coat the cylinder walls and help to cool the engine and lubricate the pistons, but they also get blown down through the PCV.

        On modern vehicles, the PCV is routed back to the intake tube where the blow-by vapors are consumed by the engine. Typically this is not an issue, but in sufficient volumes it can be. This is why air : oil separators are installed on performance engines which are particularly prone to these issues.
        Well, is the Seadoo 4-Tec engine 'prone' to this problem, and is the volume of oil fumes being ingested large enough to cause actual trouble?

        How close to the actual edge of pre-ignition is a typical Stage 2 (or whatever) recent era Seadoo 260/300 engine running? Is it so close that the crankcase fumes would push it dangerously close to to pre-ignition risk?

        Put another way, if the crankcase vent is reconnected to the stock configuration where the fumes are consumed by the engine, does the engine begin to suffer from pre-ignition, whereas disconnecting the crankcase fume feed into the engine resolves the pre-ignition?
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        • #79
          Originally posted by K447 View Post
          Well, is the Seadoo 4-Tec engine ‘prone’ to this problem, and is the volume of oil fumes being ingested large enough to cause actual trouble?

          How close to the actual edge of pre-ignition is a typical Stage 2 (or whatever) recent era Seadoo 260/300 engine running? Is it so close that the crankcase fumes would push it dangerously close to to pre-ignition risk?

          Put another way, if the crankcase vent is reconnected to the stock configuration where the fumes are consumed by the engine, does the engine begin to suffer from pre-ignition, whereas disconnecting the crankcase fume feed into the engine resolves the pre-ignition?
          Let me put it simply, your engine re breathing crankcase vapors is not good for any performance application. Why take the risk? Vent your crankcase through a catch can and be done with it.
          Save money on your pwc performance parts! Use the discount code: greenhulk when completing the checkout process in the GREENHULK PWC Performance Store and save 10% off the listed price of MOST Riva Racing and ALL WORX Racing Products. We also offer Fizzle Racing, MaptunerX tuning bundle packages, and instant download tuning licenses at discounted prices.

          Shop now! www.greenhulkstore.com​​
          Contact us! [email protected]
          Like us on Facebook! www.facebook.com/GreenHulkPWCPerformanceStore

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Green Hulk View Post
            - any performance application.

            Why take the risk? ...
            I guess that is the question - is there an actual risk (to the engine internals), with these specific engines?

            Not the risk of the intercooler developing an oily film that potentially reduces maximum power, but risk of actual damage to the engine internals.

            What degree of risk?
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            • #81
              Originally posted by Green Hulk View Post
              Let me put it simply, your engine re breathing crankcase vapors is not good for any performance application. Why take the risk? Vent your crankcase through a catch can and be done with it.
              Jerry,
              Since the can releases the vapors into the hull/bilge rather than the atmosphere, aren't the vapors going into the induction system anyway?
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