attempt failed to put antifreeze for winterization

[daverxp4]

well i tried to put antifreeze thru the flushing system with a garden hose with a quick connect, and top of hose with a funel,tried to see if gravetty will let it go inside the engine and it didin't.
started the engine first with the garden hose and funnel connected poored antifreeze into funel and it didin't work.
i guess you really need pressure for it to work, well at least i tried.

[HoopsRXT]

I did my similar to you. Instead of using gravity to feed I purchased a small 1/6 horsepower sump pump from my local hardware store. It came with a garden hose connector. Just connect one end of the jose to the ski and the other end to the pump. Set the pump in a bucket of antifreeze, start the ski, then plug in the pump. then run til antifreeze comes out of the back, shut off pump, then shut off the ski. All done

[daverxp4]

how much did it cost you for the sump pump?
my attempt failled i think you need pressure to feed the flush connection.

[Shibby1485]

guys... you don't need to run the engine... start the ski with no hose, hit the throttle and blast water out of the exhaust... turn it off

put gallon of ANTIFREEZE in a bucket, drop a pump in the bucket and pump it thru the flush port... the only way u'll get the fluid into the motor is if the waterbox fills up all the way and it backs up into the exhaust pipe into the motor... not gonna happen unless u pump 4+ gallons of water into it without it running.

[R-Doo]

Get a cheap little 12v bilge pump, some tubing and a hose connector. The battery is in the ski.

[Shibby1485]

Get a cheap little 12v bilge pump, some tubing and a hose connector. The battery is in the ski.

bingo that's 110% how i do my skis as well

[Ultra/RXP]

Most hardware stores and places like Home Depot and Lowes have a little pump you run with an electric drill. It has garden hose connections. Costs about $10 and works great.

[CrazyA]

or...

http://www.greenhulk.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13517

I like the ideas guys. The bilge pump idea sounds minty, but so does the electric drill deal!!! Good stuff.

[HoopsRXT]

The pump i purchased cost me $53. Noticably more than the $10 drill pump. I wanted something durable and that ran on 110 volt. I saw the drill pumps but decided to pass. They didn't look sturdy like a pump in a metal housing. Plus you can use the pump other places then too, I don;t know where but I'm sure you'll figure that out the day you need it. To each his own, this is how i did mine. Not the cheapest but still less than the dealer-which is always good

[Jeff C]

If you have a pump up garden chemical sprayer, you have almost everything you need.

Put antifreeze in the garden sprayer, pump it up, get yourself an adaptor to the flushing system, turn on the ski, and pump the antifreeze in. Just keep on pumping the sprayer until you see the antifreeze coming out the enxhaust.

Turn off the ski and your done.

[Red Devil]

If you have a pump up garden chemical sprayer, you have almost everything you need.

Put antifreeze in the garden sprayer, pump it up, get yourself an adaptor to the flushing system, turn on the ski, and pump the antifreeze in. Just keep on pumping the sprayer until you see the antifreeze coming out the enxhaust.

Turn off the ski and your done.

Hey Jeff, why would you ever winterize, it doesn't get that cold where you live does it?? Did you ever get that S/C'er out and sent off....

Jay

[Shibby1485]

guys.. ski does not have to be running, let me say this again... you flush the system in reverse. running the ski blows the antifreeze out of the waterbox.. the integral part is getting anti-freeze into the intercooler. a non-intercooled motor doesn't really need antifreeze, altho the prudent person will do it anyway.

you need to force as much antifreeze as possible quickly with the ski off thru the flush port... this provides enough pressure for the antifreeze to backup in the j-pipe and be forced backwards into the intercooler.

do all your winterizing, then the last thing u should do is get a pump that will put out a fair GPH and pump antifreeze thru the flush port with the ski OFF ... you CANNOT do any damage with 1-2 gallons of fluid with the ski off... the ONLY way to fill the motor with water is by filling the waterbox up COMPLETELY and then filling up the j-pipe until it goes into the exhaust manifold then pours into the motor thru the exhaust valves... that's easily 5+ gallons it'll take to even come close to gettin fluid into the motor

[Shibby1485]

oh and u wont see antifreeze come out the exhaust... u'll see it come out the PUMP

[Jeff C]

Shibb:

I must have it wrong then..........

I thought the flushing port fed water into Both the waterbox AND the intercooler when the motor was running.

I am cornfuzzzed!

[Shibby1485]

Jeff C... ur correct it supplies both, but the amount going to each depends on the pressure you put thru it.

when the ski is IN the water the water goes thru the pump, thru the intercooler, into the exhaust manifold, then it splits... some goes thru the j-pipe and down into the waterbox, and some goes out the flush port... the flush port is a water OUTLET when the ski is in operation.

so when you flush, you are flushing the system in reverse... and yes half gets dumped to the waterbox and the rest tries to make it in reverse thru the exhaust manifold and thru the intercooler and out thru the pump.

when flushing (or pumping antifreeze) MOST of the water is going to just go down the j-pipe and out the waterbox.. which is useless. the critical components are getting the water/antifreeze thru the manifold to go backwards thru the intercooler... so you need to supply enough water that the j-pipe can't handle it all and it starts to back up the j-pipe water jackets and goes in reverse thru the manifold and intercooler... a little trickle of antifreeze is jsut going to go into the exhaust and get blown right back out, maybe some will make its way to the intercooler...

running the ski when pumping antifreeze is just going to blow watever antifreeze is in the exhaust right out... so by leaving the ski off and getting a fair sized pump (a bilge pump equivanlent or better works perfectly) you pump 1-2 gallons of antifreeze into the ski thru the flush port and that will create enough pressure to fill the j-pipe and backup the 3 pin holes for the waterbox and it will force a fair amount of water backwards into the intercooler.