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  • Pressure Testing Two Stroke Engines

    What is pressure testing?

    Pressure testing is a test performed on a two stroke engine to ensure that the engine has no air leaks. An air leak in a two stroke engine can cause a lean condition in your engines air-fuel mixture. This in turn can result in serious engine damage. For example: Piston seizure, detonation, etc.

    Note: There is absolutely no way to ensure that your engine doesn't have an air leak without performing the following test.

    To pressure test your engine you will need a few special items. See below for instructions on building your own pressure test device. To test the engine: cylinder, head, reed cage, intake manifold and spark plug must all be installed and properly torqued. Exhaust pipe and carb must not be installed.

    Here is a pic of a typical Mikuni Pressure Test Kit than can be found at many places on the iternet.


    A steel or aluminum plate must be bolted onto the exhaust side of the cylinder using a piece of rubber as a gasket.
    A round fitting with pressure gage attached should be clamped into the intake manifold on the cylinder.
    With equipment in place, use a hand pump to fill the sealed engine with 6-8 lbs of air pressure.
    Once 6 lbs of pressure is pumped into the engine. Set a timer for 6 minutes.
    Engine must hold a full 6 lbs of pressure for 6 minutes without any loss.
    A tight motor should be able to hold this setting for more than 10 minutes without losing any air.

    Rule of Thumb The normal bleed-down pressure loss is 1 psi per minute.


    If gauge shows a loss of pressure, squirt all gasket surfaces with a water based soapy solution (Windex, 409, etc.) If there is a leak at any surface you will see soap bubbles. Re-torque any areas that leak.

    If you cannot locate the leak by looking externally, consult a qualified two stroke mechanic.

    If after 6 minutes the gauge shows no loss in pressure, remove testing equipment and continue assembly of machine.

    Building your own pressure testing device. All parts can be found at any good hardware store. total cost should be around $15.


    Below are some pics that GPR Veteran Fernando Delgado (Fercho) posted on his web page










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    2000 Stock GPRXP ~ 83.6 / 7900 rpm
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  • #2
    As usual - great information to have. Simply awsome Billy!
    John Abbott
    Birmingham, AL / Lay Lake
    (2) 2015 RXP-X 260's
    SKIS ARE FOR SALE!!!

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    • #3
      for those that like the fancy ones, here is one by Motion Pro

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      2000 Stock GPRXP ~ 83.6 / 7900 rpm
      2006 Stock RXP ~ 67.7 mph
      2000 Stage II GP1200R ~ 76.7 / 7400 rpm (retired motor 2007 for conversion build)
      www.wfoperformance.net


      Pics ~Pics & Mods~ / Keep the 2-Strokes Alive !


      Buy your Performance Parts at @ www.4tecperformance.com

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      • #4
        !!! THIS IS NOT COMPRESSION TESTING YOUR CYLINDERS !!!

        This is more than just a standard "Billy's Great Post."

        This is the ONE post that everyone should get to understand.
        A ton of tuning differences, as well as siezed pistons and trashed engines can be directly related to leaky cases on two strokes.

        Areas of concern:
        Rear seal.
        Reed cage area.
        cylinder base.
        case halves.
        head gasket or oring.
        front seal.
        Pulse lines.
        Cracks in the assembly.
        Intake/carb mounting.
        Mark
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        • #5
          hey guys i was reading through this and something caught my eye... does the rule of thumb (1 psi loss for every minute) only apply after the completed 6lbs for 6min?? should you expect a loss of pressure after the alloted time?
          08 RXP-X,,,,,flyboard ski
          03 GP1300R,,,,'ol faithful
          00 GP1200R triple pipe,,,,retired
          94 30' double decker party hut,,,,why we stopped using our skis


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          • #6
            Lowell Horning has a nice custom made pressure test kit for sale.
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            • #7
              I purchased my kit from Lowell.

              Well worth the ninty bucks. The first time I put it together there was
              a leak in the head that lasted 15 mins.
              2005 Gp1300
              Done by Fercho
              Lowell Horning Porting
              2005 GP1300 Triple pipe
              The package/Lowell porting
              2007 Rxp stock ecu Rude 1
              2012 RXPX260 stock for ever!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mtrager View Post
                I purchased my kit from Lowell.

                Well worth the ninty bucks. The first time I put it together there was
                a leak in the head that lasted 15 mins.

                hi mark,do i ask lowell for a efi test kit or is there a few to choose from...

                paul
                It's not fun, its R&D

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RDH View Post
                  hey guys i was reading through this and something caught my eye... does the rule of thumb (1 psi loss for every minute) only apply after the completed 6lbs for 6min?? should you expect a loss of pressure after the alloted time?
                  It's capable of getting below 1psi a minute. I've had plenty hold pressure for a very long time. You do have to refill it the first time, to get all the crevices filled with pressure.
                  Mark
                  ÔÇ£
                  Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver.ÔÇØ

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Hydrotherapy View Post
                    hi mark,do i ask lowell for a efi test kit or is there a few to choose from...

                    paul
                    Paul test is done with intake plugged. so you have to remove carbs, EFI.
                    I leave my reeds installed as the VF III's are more challenging to seal.

                    I will never build a motor again without pressure testing before use.
                    "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results"

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Hydrotherapy View Post
                      hi mark,do i ask lowell for a efi test kit or is there a few to choose from...

                      paul
                      Yes, Just tell him you a have an efi.

                      I am sure he has one for carbs also.
                      2005 Gp1300
                      Done by Fercho
                      Lowell Horning Porting
                      2005 GP1300 Triple pipe
                      The package/Lowell porting
                      2007 Rxp stock ecu Rude 1
                      2012 RXPX260 stock for ever!

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                      • #12
                        Pictures of Lowell's kits


                        BTW he is out of town until early next week.
                        "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results"

                        http://www.pwc-performance.com/
                        Support The Forum and Save 10% off on RIVA and R&D products, coupon code is greenhulk

                        Porting by Lowell Horning "2-Stroke Porting.com" http://www.2-stroke-porting.com/

                        http://www.hydrotoys.com/gpr/tuners/osidebil/

                        01 SUV-1.8L SHO Conversion (Alex's Ski) Build has begun http://www.greenhulk.net/showthread.php?t=172812
                        01 GPR 1300 Ported BB (77.1 @7100) (Sold Cuda67)
                        02 GPR 1440 Stroked and Ported by 2-Stroke-Porting.com, Factory Triple Pipe project (Under Construction)
                        99 GP1200 Ported by West Coast Porting, Bored 1mm over, Secret Mods Motor Broke in, tuning in process. This thing pulls hard with a 14/20 J prop.

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                        • #13
                          Here is a simple Gauge set-up from Fercho you can get the parts at any hardware store.

                          "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results"

                          http://www.pwc-performance.com/
                          Support The Forum and Save 10% off on RIVA and R&D products, coupon code is greenhulk

                          Porting by Lowell Horning "2-Stroke Porting.com" http://www.2-stroke-porting.com/

                          http://www.hydrotoys.com/gpr/tuners/osidebil/

                          01 SUV-1.8L SHO Conversion (Alex's Ski) Build has begun http://www.greenhulk.net/showthread.php?t=172812
                          01 GPR 1300 Ported BB (77.1 @7100) (Sold Cuda67)
                          02 GPR 1440 Stroked and Ported by 2-Stroke-Porting.com, Factory Triple Pipe project (Under Construction)
                          99 GP1200 Ported by West Coast Porting, Bored 1mm over, Secret Mods Motor Broke in, tuning in process. This thing pulls hard with a 14/20 J prop.

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                          • #14
                            I bought Lowell's kit.Works great.Lowell did a very nice job making these.

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                            • #15
                              Anybody got a link to where I can buy a Mikuni Pressure Test Kit. I've been looking the last 15 minutes and all I can find is the Pop-Off gauge.

                              Thanks.

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