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    Here are a few pics of my setup.. Put a 1/8 npt barb at 10 and 2 oclock. Used jetworks pro valves, 2 transmission cooler hoses with the steel lines crimped on them, then ran the steel line through a homemade aluminum bracket that mounts to the upper left pump bolt. Aluminum bracket started life as a truck mirror bracket. It is much happier now going fast on a jet ski.
    The 2 oclock exit hose can easily be routed over to the 10 oclock side as the pic shows. A hose loom, bracket (not yet installed) will be installed using the rear 10 mm bolt from the exhaust exit and keeps the hose clear of any exhaust action.

    Riding today the valves opened between 40-45 mph. I set both the same and i was amazed at how much water shot out of them at hi speed. Handling was still very good with the FF j-plate, but the ski did seem to lift out of the water a little more, just had a lighter feel to it, but still would stay stuck and did great in a few 75 mph slalom zig zags, and not a hint of buck..

    Performance gain i cannot verify, i changed the impeller also and went a little to high, and wasnt in any flat water either..

    General consensus is ... I love it! It felt very fast, very light and very safe.. I think the days of pump tunnel cracking are gone and this should yield many benefits in both the speed and safety realm..

    Ross
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    SWEEEEET ! thanks for sharing Ross ! This is great news. A breakthru I must say for the advancement of the GPR!
    I know you pioneers that have been working on this need cudos !



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    • #3
      So did you tap into the 2" extention? I dont have that, so where would I tap into? Thanks
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      • #4
        Nice install Ross!!

        Just out of curiosity. You have your valves set to open between 40-45 mph, is this with a 800 or 1200 grate? I was thinking that a 1200 grate would open sooner than an 800 since it flows more water and at higher pressures. I know its easily adjustable but I was just wondering if maybe 40-45 on a 1200 grate would'nt be more like 55-60 on an 800? That still sounds good to me so you wouldnt loose any thrust that you could still use.
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        • #5
          Good looking install Ross!!

          I think you will be very happy with the results after a little fine tuning. The boats Rich and I have done actually required the boat to be loosened up a tad to get the speed back. Rideplate angle can be taken to a complete different level.

          Pressure pop off doesn't seem to be that important. I've gone from 10 psi to almost 30 and it doesn't seem to make much difference as long as they open by 65mph or so.

          With you and Jim working on this I expect to see great gains from this camp. Unfortunatly I will be able to do any more for a while.
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          • #6
            (So did you tap into the 2" extention? I dont have that, so where would I tap into? Thanks)

            Yes it is tapped into the 2 inch extension... If you dont have one then i dont know where you would put the barbs. The 2 inch extension works very well.

            This is on my EFI 1390 lowell ski and it has an 800 grate. I will be installing the same kit on my other ski which has the 1200 grate soon..
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            14 time SuperStock Speed Alley Champ
            2013-2014-2015-2017 Hydrodrags SuperStock Speed Alley World Champion
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            • #7
              For those without the extension... Can a valve be added to the pump strainer? Have the one line go into the waterbox (jetworks mod) and the other as a pressure relief?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by NeVerMind View Post
                For those without the extension... Can a valve be added to the pump strainer? Have the one line go into the waterbox (jetworks mod) and the other as a pressure relief?
                NO!!!!! Do not do this. The pump pressure must be relieved BEFORE the impeller housing. If you vented it in the strainer you could possibly starve the engine of the water volume that it needs to stay cool.
                02/06 GPRXP 80+ mph @ MudBug IV

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jeffsntx View Post
                  NO!!!!! Do not do this. The pump pressure must be relieved BEFORE the impeller housing. If you vented it in the strainer you could possibly starve the engine of the water volume that it needs to stay cool.
                  does anyone know the stock cooling line working pressure, aprox.......

                  then ross can measure his with mods to see if its being robbed top end of water..

                  just a thought...
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                  • #10
                    Paul, the way that Ross, WFO, Hydro and Duke are doing it, it does not have any affect on the water going through the strainer and to the engine, they are venting it in the 2" extention.
                    02/06 GPRXP 80+ mph @ MudBug IV

                    06/05 GPRXP Currently running, just need the time to get it to the water.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by saltygpr13 View Post
                      does anyone know the stock cooling line working pressure, aprox.......

                      then ross can measure his with mods to see if its being robbed top end of water..

                      just a thought...
                      Ross wouldnt have any issues with cooling because he is relieving pump pressure that doesnt involve cooling water.

                      Jeff was refering to the pump strainer idea.
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                      • #12
                        I was typing as Jeff responded.
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                        • #13
                          Last edited by Hydrotherapy; 08-21-2007, 02:33 AM.
                          It's not fun, its R&D

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                          • #14
                            If you do the 800 grate and just concerened with top speed only,,,, well looks like it works ok, but with a 1200 grate looking for holeshot if the valve leaks any at all. gets a little peice of stick, leaf or something. and they do leak after a while then the basic water pump rules apply and it will cavitate. You could also hide that type of thing.

                            What would be realy neat is something that causes no speed loss, increase holeshot,and is self regulating in how much pressure to relieve as it goes dependent on vacum of water passing underneath the boat due to speed also being influencd by pressure in the tunnel.


                            Now for a thing of beauty that I experienced this week end. Never before seen or felt... for me,never believed it would ever happen.........

                            12 to 13 gallons of fuel zero, none, nada, oh and did I say none

                            CAVATION on a 280+ "guess" HP triple pipe bigbore. I could not belive it!!!!!!!
                            Hooked up in the chop. Hooked up everywhere. It was a blast to say the least.


                            Like I heard someone say once DON'T belive the hype



                            P.S. jetworks valve I ruled out along with about 2 other Ideas that I had.
                            None would do all the things I was looking for well except for the one that was done.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Rocketman View Post
                              If you do the 800 grate and just concerened with top speed only,,,, well looks like it works ok, but with a 1200 grate looking for holeshot if the valve leaks any at all. gets a little peice of stick, leaf or something. and they do leak after a while then the basic water pump rules apply and it will cavitate. You could also hide that type of thing.

                              What would be realy neat is something that causes no speed loss, increase holeshot,and is self regulating in how much pressure to relieve as it goes dependent on vacum of water passing underneath the boat due to speed also being influencd by pressure in the tunnel.


                              Now for a thing of beauty that I experienced this week end. Never before seen or felt... for me,never believed it would ever happen.........

                              12 to 13 gallons of fuel zero, none, nada, oh and did I say none

                              CAVATION on a 280+ "guess" HP triple pipe bigbore. I could not belive it!!!!!!!
                              Hooked up in the chop. Hooked up everywhere. It was a blast to say the least.


                              Like I heard someone say once DON'T belive the hype



                              P.S. jetworks valve I ruled out along with about 2 other Ideas that I had.
                              None would do all the things I was looking for well except for the one that was done.

                              Glad things worked out for you Kerry. I think Ross was just showing everyone his mod....for free.
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                              Please contact [email protected] for services and builds.

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