Yamaha 2021-2023 Low Fuel Alarm, Reduced Fuel Tank capacity?

[skeeterzx225]

Any update from Yamaha on the 2022+ Low Fuel Alarm/Reset fuel usage issue? Greenhulk?

I was asking around at our state's Boat Show and everyone was pretty clueless...

Greenhulks (Jerry & Greg) - You guys seem to have Yamaha's ear, have you asked them about the Low Fuel Alarm/Resetting Fuel Usage issues the 2022+ FX models seem to have?

[K447]

http://greenhulk.net/showthread.php?t=297281&p=3183667&viewfull=1#post3183667

My understanding is that the ‘early’ triggering of the low fuel alarm on some newer models was an intentional software change made in response to reports of riders venturing offshore and not monitoring their fuel remaining indicator until it was too late, whereby they ran out of fuel before reaching land. Rescue was required.

In response the PWC manufacturers have raised the fuel remaining amount at which the initial Low Fuel warning occurs.

It does feel like a hack, and annoying to the rider. But apparently not a bug.

Hopefully, eventually they figure out a better way to arbitrate between staying quiet longer and some sort of intelligent method of helping the rider plan their fuel consumption and reach safety before the fuel tank becomes empty.

Do any of the newest models with built-in GPS charting have the ability to do trip fuel planning?

[Hozzie]

Yep, I don't know how many need to ask, but Yamaha sees it as a feature, not a bug.

[svhooo]

Yep, I don't know how many need to ask, but Yamaha sees it as a feature, not a bug.

I'd argue it's much more dangerous.

Do they expect you to look at the screen while you ride back home with 40% of the tank remaining (no joke) and the alarm going off, to check if the engine is also overheating or anything (since the low fuel alarm and other alarms are the same)? Shouldn't I be looking where I'm going, instead of my screen to make sure multiple other alarms in addition to the fuel alarm are not on? Having the low fuel alarm come on so ridiculously early, renders every other alarm for all intents and purposes useless/not working for that period of time - which is for me, with 30-40% of my tank remaining.

Either fix it, or they need to start advertising a fuel capacity that is half of what they currently state. They could otherwise be done for false advertising too.

Such an unbelievably stupid "solution" for the only slightly less stupid problem of riders not monitoring their fuel consumption.

[Wild Thing]

This sums it up perfectly. Get one of yamaha marketing gurus to explain there way out of that one.

[Mr. GP1800]

I plan to engineer my own fix to that problem. Ill share my results here once I get it all figured out and working

[Team Bilford]

Can you pull the sending unit and bend the arm down to make the float or sensor ride higher in the stroke? It's a common tweak on the Sea Doo units.

[Noront]

Is it possible to temporarily silence the low fuel alarm on the 2023 FX’s?
If so how is it done and how long does the alarm stay off for?

[Wild Thing]

Well 22s are same animal. I filled up before i left for the beach. The fuel alarm was going crazy on the last run for 15 minutes before i last quit. You hit the button on dash and it silenced it for all of 30 seconds ffs. Now here is the kicker in the short 15 minute run home by the time i was at the beach return point i had one bar of fuel left on dash. So before my run out on sunday last i stoped at station for fuel. 39 litres to brim the tank. Now bear in mind the FX has 70 litre capacity. It is just stupidly ridiculous how yamaha over engineered a solution for idiots who should not be out on skis for their own safety

[Noront]

[QUOTE=Wild Thing. The fuel alarm was going crazy on the last run for 15 minutes before i last quit. You hit the button on dash and it silenced it for all of 30 seconds ffs.

i agree wholeheartedly… that is crazy! Once the low fuel alarm goes off they should allow the operator to mute the alarm for a specific period of time… say 20 minutes.
Does your fuel used amount also reset to zero when you turn off the motor?

[Mr. GP1800]

Can you pull the sending unit and bend the arm down to make the float or sensor ride higher in the stroke? It's a common tweak on the Sea Doo units.

You can just bend the arm. The problem with that is you’ll lose accuracy at the higher fuel levels in the tank. My plan is to either reshape the existing arm or bend up an entirely new arm, with the goal being to maintain gauge accuracy from full all the way down to empty. When you bend the arm you still want to make sure the float gets to the top of the tank and doesn’t stop somewhere a few inches below the top of the tank.

[Mr. GP1800]

Well 22s are same animal. I filled up before i left for the beach. The fuel alarm was going crazy on the last run for 15 minutes before i last quit. You hit the button on dash and it silenced it for all of 30 seconds ffs. Now here is the kicker in the short 15 minute run home by the time i was at the beach return point i had one bar of fuel left on dash. So before my run out on sunday last i stoped at station for fuel. 39 litres to brim the tank. Now bear in mind the FX has 70 litre capacity. It is just stupidly ridiculous how yamaha over engineered a solution for idiots who should not be out on skis for their own safety

So your gauge was showing 1 bar left with 30 liters remaining in the tank? That’s nearly 8 gallons. In an 18.5 gallon tank. That’s just ridiculous. When I get my new 2023 I will be doing some testing to determine if its gauge calibration or just an adjustment to the float arm on the sender that’s causing this. I managed to figure out the fuel levels and remaining fuel amounts on my 2017 GP 1800. But that warning goes off with 4 gallons remaining in the tank. I will be determining if the ohm readings from the 2023 fuel sender matches up to what’s in my 2017.

[Mr. GP1800]

[QUOTE=Noront;3184412][QUOTE=Wild Thing. The fuel alarm was going crazy on the last run for 15 minutes before i last quit. You hit the button on dash and it silenced it for all of 30 seconds ffs.

i agree wholeheartedly… that is crazy! Once the low fuel alarm goes off they should allow the operator to mute the alarm for a specific period of time… say 20 minutes.
Does your fuel used amount also reset to zero when you turn off the motor?[/QUOTE]

If it becomes that annoying on my ski I will be installing a switch on the buzzer to turn it off. You’ll still see the visual warning on the dash.

[lungs414]

Yamahas response to me multiple times was pull the lanyard let the screen go black and that resets it. I said great when the next wave comes in it starts again? Then what?

No answer

Ridiculous

Im thinking of sending a demand to repair under warranty claim and see what happens. Thats how I started a claim against Audi for a lemon law.
It will probably go no where but nothing ventured nothing gained.

[QUOTE=Mr. GP1800;3184447]

If it becomes that annoying on my ski I will be installing a switch on the buzzer to turn it off. You’ll still see the visual warning on the dash.

[svhooo]

Is it possible to temporarily silence the low fuel alarm on the 2023 FX’s?
If so how is it done and how long does the alarm stay off for?

You can, but you need to come to a complete stop (accelerator off), then oftentimes the level of the ski will reset and by the time you've managed to hit the tiny little icon, the alarm has turned off. Then you get going again and as soon as the nose rises, the alarm goes off again. I experienced this exact cycle for THIRTY MINUTES riding home one day.

Well 22s are same animal. I filled up before i left for the beach. The fuel alarm was going crazy on the last run for 15 minutes before i last quit. You hit the button on dash and it silenced it for all of 30 seconds ffs. Now here is the kicker in the short 15 minute run home by the time i was at the beach return point i had one bar of fuel left on dash. So before my run out on sunday last i stoped at station for fuel. 39 litres to brim the tank. Now bear in mind the FX has 70 litre capacity. It is just stupidly ridiculous how yamaha over engineered a solution for idiots who should not be out on skis for their own safety

I concur 100% with this post. As I said, I'm not joking when the alarm goes off with 40% of the tank remaining.

[QUOTE=Mr. GP1800;3184447]

If it becomes that annoying on my ski I will be installing a switch on the buzzer to turn it off. You’ll still see the visual warning on the dash.

I showed how to disconnect the buzzer completely here - http://greenhulk.net/showthre...76#post3183376

Since all alarms use the same buzzer, all the other alarms are useless once the "low fuel" warning comes on at 40% fuel remaining anyway.