Thanks obama and GM ...

[Mark]

Hold the presses.

[Mark]

Shit... I said HOLD THE PRESS!

I just heard on Coast to Coast (on the way to the store - you don't think I actually listen to that, do you?) that a possible explaination for Obama support is the theory that millions of souls may have experienced a similar set of circumstances to today with Romney/Ryan seemingly smarter, better, more capable people, possibly getting beat by the retards in the executive branch today. In thousands or millions of pastlives, voters have gained some unexplainable insight that is keeping Obama competitive. You know, the feeling you get when something inside tells you to turn your car left, you make a conscious effort to not do it but later find out that you did turn left? This actually makes more sence than anything else I've heard, Ha!

I feel a lot better now that I know that this shitpot of freaks isn't evil - they just have a subconscious telling them what to do...
For your listening pleasure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAlrSRVdKZY&feature=related

Really, this time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8C7i9kdEf8

[jsiouan]

The whole Dem vs Rep thing is BS anyway. I don't understand how you can use one word to sum up your views on hundreds of issues anyway. THEY ARE ALL THE SAME PEOPLE. Obama, Romney, Ryan, Biden, Clinton, etc etc....they may not say the same things, but they are the same people. The only hope was Ron Paul, and he will never be elected President.

NOT CONSERVATIVE, not liberals or progressives. Somewhere in the twilight zone. I knew that people like jsiouan, 123456, and Lex existed. I have simply not heard of three of them together but one other time in my life - near the Cahulawassee River in 1972.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tqxzWdKKu8

[Mark]

Yes, they are the same...


...EXCEPT (and I don't know why I'm doing this as it never goes anywhere!), that Rs are much more often God Fearing, thus have a sence of right and wrong. You may not agree with their right and wrong, but at least they generally don't think it is perfectly acceptable to ream the neighbor's dog's ass, teach kids that it's okay to spread DNA all over the walls then use abortion as birth control, give you one of my shoes 'cause I've got two, spend unborn children's entire lifetime earnings so that they can get voted in again and live like F'ing kings, and sit on their ass, do drugs and watch reality retard TV, while bitching that others have too much and they want it? If nothing else, nothing else whatsoever, a D likely studied interpretive dance or sociology in school, while an R studied finance and economics. All things being equal, do we really want someone who's course of studies was "dance" running the country?
Dude, do you really think that Paul Ryan is the same shit as Barack Obama? If so, I just wasted ten minutes typing, because you are perfect D material - incapable of rational, adult thought.

[lukejaeger1]

+1 Mark

[YoYamma]

Reuters photo of the month, pretty much says it all...

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/teleprompter-obscures-u-president-obama-speaks-during-campaign-photo-174748405.html

[Mark]

Did they REALLY!? That's the best pic I've seen of him, as it is an indicator that the left has finally turned on him. If the left has turned, that leaves Feminazis, drugged out hippies and racist blacks who would vote for the guy because he's part black and aren't educated enough to know that uneducated blacks are the class most harmed by leftist policies.
One more thing about Ron Paul. The guy has a good heart. He is strong of moral fiber. He is just too goofy, and if you really want to do something good for the USA, start helping to cultivate and support RAND Paul, his son, for good, big political things down the road. As it is, there is so much young power of mind and goodness in the R party, that if the Ds don't steal this election, it will be a very, very long time before we might go down the horrible road of the last five years again.
Balance the budget, get some Constitutional judges appointed, then we can argue over the merits of library statues VS. chronic welfare, mag-lev train for a bankrupt California or responsible government, killing babies because they are inconvenient or forcing responsibility upon inner-city folk. Got it? Ds and Rs are NOT the same. It is an offence to say that they are. Somebody actually put Paul Ryan and Joe Biden in the same group? I'm not even sure they are the same SPECIES (clue: Ryan is of the species H. sapien)!

[rlovebk]

Obviously an anti-abortion guy. So what are you gonna do when they outlaw abortion and then you have 10 times the mouths to feed, healthcare, diapers, formula, you name it. Can you say welfare? You and me and every other taxpayer will pick up the tab for all those aborted babies for all time. What is your answer for that? This god fearing morality crap is just that and has no root in principle when it comes to laws and how OUR country is run. Founders set up the seperation clauses just for that. I am not against religion. I am not against people living their life by a set of principles or standards that THEY want to. But I don't like it when people push their morality/virtues on others.

Republicrats and Demlicans. 2 types of Zebras, ones stripes run one way, the other ones run the other. Me and you are the field that they both eat and crap on.
And I am tired of getting trickled down on.

[lawyerboy]

+1, this is so true. Politicians from both sides end up exorbitantly spending other people's money and passing laws that they don't read, and often don't apply to them. jackwagons.

Obviously an anti-abortion guy. So what are you gonna do when they outlaw abortion and then you have 10 times the mouths to feed, healthcare, diapers, formula, you name it. Can you say welfare? You and me and every other taxpayer will pick up the tab for all those aborted babies for all time. What is your answer for that? This god fearing morality crap is just that and has no root in principle when it comes to laws and how OUR country is run. Founders set up the seperation clauses just for that. I am not against religion. I am not against people living their life by a set of principles or standards that THEY want to. But I don't like it when people push their morality/virtues on others.

Republicrats and Demlicans. 2 types of Zebras, ones stripes run one way, the other ones run the other. Me and you are the field that they both eat and crap on.
And I am tired of getting trickled down on.

[Mark]

RloveBarack, you miss the point (or deliberately focus on the thing that could even be argued from your pulpit. Okay, I'll take this tangent for a bit...). The abortion method of birth control is but a symptom of your condition, being amoral or wanting to be amoral even if you are hanging on to some thread of decency handed down by your parents. You want there to be no God, no greater power and it lends to your superiority to argue without apparent ramifications that you are an enlightened, "sciency" dude that sees beyond the great dupe of religion. A leach, a lawyer, will even do the right thing given enough stimulus (hold a match to a leach attached to your ass and he will eventually let go). What I'm saying here is that you can have a set of laws inside a man, governered by his belief in God, or you can have a set of laws enforced by a government. Without one of these sets of laws, there is a third, and we don't want to go there yet - dominance by the strong and aggressive. We will go there, I'm sure down the line, if the leftists push to hard - and as more and more are convinced that religion is outmoded, stupid, a tool of the church, etc., and become amoral, more government laws and enforcement will be needed to control the marauding shitheads (flashmobs, occupiers, etc.). You will push too hard and the right will fight back... or they won't. If they don't fight back, a far worse outcome is in store - that you actually get your amoral world governed by laws and run by elite and powerful. It is the world of camaras watching through house walls, drones overhead, bureaucracy, eugenics and genocide (chemical birth control or abortion), and a greatly reduced middle class and hopelessness. NOT TO MENTION the erosion of wealth caused by your leftist policies, and the Hoovering of the scraps of that wealth by lawyers and bureaucrats, this is the enevitable outcome IF YOUR IDEALS COALESCE.
Do you start to get the picture? Because we know the above, even if we don't all "see" the minutia, because we know that we can control ourselves or we can be controlled, is why you think the right is unreasonable in wanting to go down this path. I'm sorry but for all of your education and enlightened thought, we are simply more aware than you, say it "smarter".
I definately don't want to get into a grammer-check contest here because it distracts from the more important arguments. Suffice to say, your grammer sucks and I am too wordy and make mistakes and don't usually proofread as I type. This is a grammer error or deliberate snub with you people... "God" to people of God, is capitalized. If your aim is to offend, we understand that. Offending is one of your major talents but you will appear more "enlightened" (your goal today, as you argue against wanting to reign in abortion) if you take your little slight off the table and just hit the shift key as you type the "G" of God. You will appear a bigger man for having respected a major worldview, the other major worldview besides "Communism".
Let one teenage daughter more take care of a baby and her little sister will say "not for me" and keep her pants on. Morality and reality are the keys.
"...Founders set up the seperation clauses just for that." The religious clauses? Seperation of church and state? They are to prevent the government from governing as a church and forbade government from prohibting the free excersize of religion. The founders were, in most part, God-fearing. That is how the system works. When men are amoral heathens, the system that has kept us free breaks down. "...tricked down on." Okay Rachel (Maddow), enough of the catch phrases and snark. Talk substance, specifically why do you want to drag supply-side into it? The only alternative to having freedom to profit and accumulate wealth is the futile attempt to gain at the expense of others by means of looting and plundering. This is not a legit alternative, despite what lawyers and politicians would have.
Think about having morality/virtues "pushed upon you. It is that or law enforcement. Which is more free?
You will always be a libtard, no doubt in my mind. My only point in even responding to you, Dyouung, people like you, is so that an impressionable (brainwashed by our education system) mind doesn't fall in line with the wrong way of thinking.

[Beagleman62]

RloveBarack, you miss the point (or deliberately focus on the thing that could even be argued from your pulpit. Okay, I'll take this tangent for a bit...). The abortion method of birth control is but a symptom of your condition, being amoral or wanting to be amoral even if you are hanging on to some thread of decency handed down by your parents. You want there to be no God, no greater power and it lends to your superiority to argue without apparent ramifications that you are an enlightened, "sciency" dude that sees beyond the great dupe of religion. A leach, a lawyer, will even do the right thing given enough stimulus (hold a match to a leach attached to your ass and he will eventually let go). What I'm saying here is that you can have a set of laws inside a man, governered by his belief in God, or you can have a set of laws enforced by a government. Without one of these sets of laws, there is a third, and we don't want to go there yet - dominance by the strong and aggressive. We will go there, I'm sure down the line, if the leftists push to hard - and as more and more are convinced that religion is outmoded, stupid, a tool of the church, etc., and become amoral, more government laws and enforcement will be needed to control the marauding shitheads (flashmobs, occupiers, etc.). You will push too hard and the right will fight back... or they won't. If they don't fight back, a far worse outcome is in store - that you actually get your amoral world governed by laws and run by elite and powerful. It is the world of camaras watching through house walls, drones overhead, bureaucracy, eugenics and genocide (chemical birth control or abortion), and a greatly reduced middle class and hopelessness. NOT TO MENTION the erosion of wealth caused by your leftist policies, and the Hoovering of the scraps of that wealth by lawyers and bureaucrats, this is the enevitable outcome IF YOUR IDEALS COALESCE.
Do you start to get the picture? Because we know the above, even if we don't all "see" the minutia, because we know that we can control ourselves or we can be controlled, is why you think the right is unreasonable in wanting to go down this path. I'm sorry but for all of your education and enlightened thought, we are simply more aware than you, say it "smarter".
I definately don't want to get into a grammer-check contest here because it distracts from the more important arguments. Suffice to say, your grammer sucks and I am too wordy and make mistakes and don't usually proofread as I type. This is a grammer error or deliberate snub with you people... "God" to people of God, is capitalized. If your aim is to offend, we understand that. Offending is one of your major talents but you will appear more "enlightened" (your goal today, as you argue against wanting to reign in abortion) if you take your little slight off the table and just hit the shift key as you type the "G" of God. You will appear a bigger man for having respected a major worldview, the other major worldview besides "Communism".
Let one teenage daughter more take care of a baby and her little sister will say "not for me" and keep her pants on. Morality and reality are the keys.
"...Founders set up the seperation clauses just for that." The religious clauses? Seperation of church and state? They are to prevent the government from governing as a church and forbade government from prohibting the free excersize of religion. The founders were, in most part, God-fearing. That is how the system works. When men are amoral heathens, the system that has kept us free breaks down. "...tricked down on." Okay Rachel (Maddow), enough of the catch phrases and snark. Talk substance, specifically why do you want to drag supply-side into it? The only alternative to having freedom to profit and accumulate wealth is the futile attempt to gain at the expense of others by means of looting and plundering. This is not a legit alternative, despite what lawyers and politicians would have.
Think about having morality/virtues "pushed upon you. It is that or law enforcement. Which is more free?
You will always be a libtard, no doubt in my mind. My only point in even responding to you, Dyouung, people like you, is so that an impressionable (brainwashed by our education system) mind doesn't fall in line with the wrong way of thinking.

Hold on there chief.... I met Rod in person at the MH 300 this year. He's a great guy. (and so is his son who I also met) Let me also say that I'm pretty conservative myslef and wouldn't vote for a Democrat if you held a gun to my head. I helped pit several skis at the MH 300 and we were nothing more than a bunch of rookies. The crew Rod was with were pitting next to us. When we got in a jam or needed another hand he would be one of the first guys to run over and help us out. So before you go blowing off about someone you know nothing about, maybe you should temper your opinionated ass a little.

[YoYamma]

I don't like it when people push their morality/virtues on others.

An abortion doctor chops up an unborn human I would say he's pushing his morality on others.

[Dyoung]

RloveBarack, you miss the point (or deliberately focus on the thing that could even be argued from your pulpit. Okay, I'll take this tangent for a bit...). The abortion method of birth control is but a symptom of your condition, being amoral or wanting to be amoral even if you are hanging on to some thread of decency handed down by your parents. You want there to be no God, no greater power and it lends to your superiority to argue without apparent ramifications that you are an enlightened, "sciency" dude that sees beyond the great dupe of religion. A leach, a lawyer, will even do the right thing given enough stimulus (hold a match to a leach attached to your ass and he will eventually let go). What I'm saying here is that you can have a set of laws inside a man, governered by his belief in God, or you can have a set of laws enforced by a government. Without one of these sets of laws, there is a third, and we don't want to go there yet - dominance by the strong and aggressive. We will go there, I'm sure down the line, if the leftists push to hard - and as more and more are convinced that religion is outmoded, stupid, a tool of the church, etc., and become amoral, more government laws and enforcement will be needed to control the marauding shitheads (flashmobs, occupiers, etc.). You will push too hard and the right will fight back... or they won't. If they don't fight back, a far worse outcome is in store - that you actually get your amoral world governed by laws and run by elite and powerful. It is the world of camaras watching through house walls, drones overhead, bureaucracy, eugenics and genocide (chemical birth control or abortion), and a greatly reduced middle class and hopelessness. NOT TO MENTION the erosion of wealth caused by your leftist policies, and the Hoovering of the scraps of that wealth by lawyers and bureaucrats, this is the enevitable outcome IF YOUR IDEALS COALESCE.
Do you start to get the picture? Because we know the above, even if we don't all "see" the minutia, because we know that we can control ourselves or we can be controlled, is why you think the right is unreasonable in wanting to go down this path. I'm sorry but for all of your education and enlightened thought, we are simply more aware than you, say it "smarter".
I definately don't want to get into a grammer-check contest here because it distracts from the more important arguments. Suffice to say, your grammer sucks and I am too wordy and make mistakes and don't usually proofread as I type. This is a grammer error or deliberate snub with you people... "God" to people of God, is capitalized. If your aim is to offend, we understand that. Offending is one of your major talents but you will appear more "enlightened" (your goal today, as you argue against wanting to reign in abortion) if you take your little slight off the table and just hit the shift key as you type the "G" of God. You will appear a bigger man for having respected a major worldview, the other major worldview besides "Communism".
Let one teenage daughter more take care of a baby and her little sister will say "not for me" and keep her pants on. Morality and reality are the keys.
"...Founders set up the seperation clauses just for that." The religious clauses? Seperation of church and state? They are to prevent the government from governing as a church and forbade government from prohibting the free excersize of religion. The founders were, in most part, God-fearing. That is how the system works. When men are amoral heathens, the system that has kept us free breaks down. "...tricked down on." Okay Rachel (Maddow), enough of the catch phrases and snark. Talk substance, specifically why do you want to drag supply-side into it? The only alternative to having freedom to profit and accumulate wealth is the futile attempt to gain at the expense of others by means of looting and plundering. This is not a legit alternative, despite what lawyers and politicians would have.
Think about having morality/virtues "pushed upon you. It is that or law enforcement. Which is more free?
You will always be a libtard, no doubt in my mind. My only point in even responding to you, Dyouung, people like you, is so that an impressionable (brainwashed by our education system) mind doesn't fall in line with the wrong way of thinking.

FUCK YOU mark...you don't know me either so shut the fuck up and leave my name out of your blubbering responses.......

[Dyoung]

An abortion doctor chops up an unborn human I would say he's pushing his morality on others.

....i would say that it was the mothers choice to walk into the clinic.....not saying it's right or an upstanding thing to do ....but it's her choice....

[Mark]

He may be a GREAT guy, but sorely mistaken and his beliefs are ruining the greatest country that has ever existed. Dyoung is about as moral as a feral dog. He may have meant "blathering" but we get it. The point is we are diametrically opposed in our views... to the extent that I once extended an olive branch to him for the sake of the forum and the F'er jumped up and bit my hand. Nope, won't leave him out of it - he is anethema to reason and decency. He IS liberalism.
"Without God" is to be held accountable only by the laws of other men. Is it a stretch to say that if the only thing stopping a person from doing something wrong is the fear of retribution by the popo, that person is amoral? Baby formula? It's being banned now, too... talking of women's rights.
I am no chief, BTW. Had my views but only recently even became a warrior.